Need Your Opinion

raybo3raybo3 Revere MAPosts: 4,370Moderator mod
Seems like I opened my mouth again......lol I need everyones opinion on this. I posted on FB a comment about the half time show of the Super Bowl. The comment was this: "Great half time show is you speak Spanish". OMG you would have thought I committed murder. Bottom line, I was told I am racist. Here are my thought on this. #1 Almost the whole show was in Spanish. 2) I thought the show was inappropriate. 3) IMO it was an observation and not a racial remark. 4) Whatever happened to freedom of speech? Opinion's please............
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  • LaReaLaRea Alexandria VirginiaPosts: 3,773Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    1) Your statements do not make you a racist.  Racism is when you discriminate against someone based on race.  Saying you didn't like the show is not racism.  

    2) Aside from the dancing, the show's most prominent visual feature was gratuitous crotch shots of female singers and dancers, which I thought was inappropriate.  

    3) Personally, although I like a lot of different styles of music, that's not one of the styles I like.  And I don't really like to watch dancing, so I didn't like the show.
  • Handymans342Handymans342 Posts: 7,963Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    You were called out by Liberals LOL
  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Annapolis, MDPosts: 5,613Member, Moderator mod
    Freedom of speech!  You can say what you want on FB!

    But face it Raybo, we are just getting old! :)

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

  • StodgeStodge Lake St. ClairPosts: 2,672Member ✭✭✭✭
    I think there is a difference between saying you didn't care for something versus saying it's "bad".  You can't really be faulted for your preferences and feeling unless they extend to hiring, or renting a house etc.  

    So if all you said was you didn't like it, seems fair to me.  If you said it was "bad" you might be earning some of the flack.

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  • raybo3raybo3 Revere MAPosts: 4,370Moderator mod
    @Stodge what I said was: It was a great show if you speak Spanish. 
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  • StodgeStodge Lake St. ClairPosts: 2,672Member ✭✭✭✭
    You have some overly sensitive facebook friends.

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  • raybo3raybo3 Revere MAPosts: 4,370Moderator mod
    @Stodge your not kidding......lol
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  • LaReaLaRea Alexandria VirginiaPosts: 3,773Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's Di-ck, from the Internet.


  • shawnmjrshawnmjr Detroit MIPosts: 1,555Member ✭✭✭✭
    But now that you are talking about it on a BOAT forum makes you even more of a racist. Ha ha just kidding, nothing wrong with what you said but as always when you post something on social media people are going to exaggerate things. It seems like everyday that goes by the race card gets pulled more and more, just the world we live in now I guess.
  • Michael TMichael T Posts: 6,735Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMO it is more prevalent to call someone a racist, homophobe(ic), misogynist etc. in an attempt to end a discussion/debate they can't win and therefore play "the" card to prevent further discourse. 
  • Handymans342Handymans342 Posts: 7,963Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now you know how Trump feels for the last 3 Years. 
  • raybo3raybo3 Revere MAPosts: 4,370Moderator mod
    BTW the person "playing the race card" is another member from my yacht club. Of course he owns a SeaRay. I actually went with him and "brought" it home with him a couple years ago.   
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  • MarkBMarkB OntarioPosts: 3,361Member ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely people being too sensitive. Tell them to get stuffed.

    They are being racist for calling you racist.

    But I have to say, my wife enjoyed the half time show and she is not Spanish, so your hypothesis is incorrect. Hahaha!

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    "Boat + Water = Fun"

  • MarkBMarkB OntarioPosts: 3,361Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    By the way, you should have responded "I am Spanish" lol.

    Boat Name: King Kong

    "Boat + Water = Fun"

  • PickleRickPickleRick Posts: 967Member ✭✭✭
    I'm offended by everything in this thread.  Iron man is dead, Ovi beat Mario's record....i wanna see the manager!


  • rasburyrasbury Sanford, FLPosts: 5,912Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4
    so......

    The show I don't think it broadcasts as a "family show". Your not going to see kid show type stuff at half time. Have we all forgotten the Janet Jackson debacle? And, while the half time show was a bit salacious, I don't think it was really geared towards men per sey- most men are at the snacks and the keg or the bar at half time. The girls are watching the halftime show...like Markb mentions and as far as the comment about you would only enjoy it if you spoke Spanish, while I would not call it racist but see why some would not think it appropriate. Kind of like what mainly comes out of Trump's mouth eh Handy? At the end of the day, it is a country of free speech but we also have to be prepared to hear the "free speech" to comments we make without being to sensitive about it also.

    If you knew what your kids were looking at on the internet, you would have a heart attack. If you think your monitoring their phones and computers, your only kidding yourself...
  • GMSLITHOGMSLITHO Greenwood Lake NY Posts: 848Member ✭✭✭
  • rasburyrasbury Sanford, FLPosts: 5,912Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Michael T do we add snowflake to that list. I don't recall a time in my 62 years on this Earth that it so common just to call someone a name rather than debate and discuss the facts.

    Dropped the Mike and out
  • randy56randy56 Newburgh INPosts: 2,787Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5
    I missed the game my dad was is the hospital, buy i got to see the half time show today. On a cell phone. I liked all the shaking skin. half naked woman in any nationality is alright with me. So Puerto Rico a$$ is fine with me. Were they singing? music? I guess I need to see it again. 
    Ray you told us a few months ago that we could tell someone to F-off
    your turn. tell them Ray
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  • PickleRickPickleRick Posts: 967Member ✭✭✭
    Its not racist to complain about the music. I hate bon jovi, he sucks, If i had complained about him playing the half time show no one would say a thing about racism.  

    The shakura/j.lo show was 100% better on mute.  Just not my style music.  Id have rather seen fortunate youth, tool, black keys or r.h.c.p. again.

    I don't know if you're white or not but white people with opinions are racist these days. 
    There is a loop hole, if you have like 2.3% or more native American in your DNA you can identify as native American,  then you're immune to being racist.
  • shawnmjrshawnmjr Detroit MIPosts: 1,555Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5
  • icoulthaicoultha Niskayuna NYPosts: 1,389Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 5
    LaRea said:
    1) Your statements do not make you a racist.  Racism is when you discriminate against someone based on race.  Saying you didn't like the show is not racism.  

    2) Aside from the dancing, the show's most prominent visual feature was gratuitous crotch shots of female singers and dancers, which I thought was inappropriate.  

    3) Personally, although I like a lot of different styles of music, that's not one of the styles I like.  And I don't really like to watch dancing, so I didn't like the show.
    1) I agree based upon the Oxford definition:
    noun
    noun: racist; plural noun: racists
    1. a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
    adjective
    adjective: racist
    1. showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another.
    2) Also agree. I’m not prude and don’t mind seeing barely clothed women dancing on stage but the **** grabs were a bit much.

    3) I’d take that over rap anyday. But not a favorite of the varied music I like.

    Regards,

    Ian

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  • shawnmjrshawnmjr Detroit MIPosts: 1,555Member ✭✭✭✭
    Let me ask you this? If you weren’t married would you sleep with either one of them? Yup your not a racist lol 
  • PickleRickPickleRick Posts: 967Member ✭✭✭
    Haha...ive dated Latina, asian and black...what kind of cards have i earned???

    Is Canadian a race because i wouldn't want my kid dating a Canadian 😝
  • shawnmjrshawnmjr Detroit MIPosts: 1,555Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5
    Haha...ive dated Latina, asian and black...what kind of cards have i earned???

    Is Canadian a race because i wouldn't want my kid dating a Canadian 😝
    I think you’re a racist AYE 
  • 212rowboat212rowboat Posts: 2,292Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    times are a changin'.   the NFL is one of the most 'progressive' groups actively attempting to engineer society.  

    and that is what it boil down to- a group of progressive socialists using platform owned by the elite, and along with other elites (such as main stream media and their 6 major owners industry wide) are trying to tell folks what is the 'new' right and the 'new' wrong, regardless of how acceptable their positions are to the true mainstream.  there are a lot of sheeple who readily gobble down their manipulations as they are rewarded with monikers such as 'enlightened' and 'intelligent', when, it more often defies not only logic but good sense every time. ... all the while the puppeteers are elites- who attempt to identify as 'normal, everyday American's and down with the elite!!!"... it's comical, if you can look apart from their actual discredit and damage to our decent society. 

    i speak not precisely of the circumstances @raybo3 talks, but in a more general sense concerning that party... 

    some passage in a fictional book i read as a kid taken completely out of context of that book is one of the more profound things i've ever read, and along with some of granddaddy's words have shaped what i am and what i would feel successful if my children adopted: 

    the book: "no law written by man which contradicts the laws of nature will stand the test of time".  Boom.. fight it all you will, but nature and naturally developed laws will 'trump' all in the end. 

    granddaddy:  "boy, if it takes more than a breath to explain something in essence, you can bet there is a fair amount of BS present".  

    also granddaddy, and one of my favorites: "Boy, if someone is trying to get an emotional reaction from you, you're being manipulated".  and that one is on constant display with the continuous barrage of "but for the children!!!" as an example, or 'you racist!!!' as another. 

    also granddaddy, demonstrating his sage "boy- P---Y is like a snow storm, as you really know not how much you're going to get, or how long it's gonna hang around, so never turn it down and enjoy every second".   .....

    sorry, but granddaddy had his s--t together.  if he were here right now he'd look at the GOP and say "you know, i recognize those democrats but who are those other fools?"
  • dalekdalek Posts: 165Member ✭✭✭

    Same problems here in the UK. If someone can twist the words of a person they perceive as better than them for politically correct point-scoring, they will. I am convinced that it is constant daily nonsense like this that actually pushes people toward the right wing.

    On a lighter note, if it was possible to be racist toward diesels, I would class you as a Neo-Nazi.


  • PickleRickPickleRick Posts: 967Member ✭✭✭
    Diesel hating is apparently a woke thing to be 😆😆😆
  • raybo3raybo3 Revere MAPosts: 4,370Moderator mod
    Thank you everyone for your reply's. I know I am not racist......lol 
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  • LaReaLaRea Alexandria VirginiaPosts: 3,773Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5
    I wish more people understood the difference between racism and bigotry.  (But I don't think your statement qualifies as bigotry either.)  

    And on that, I'll bow out of this thread before Di-ck from the Internet gets here!
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