Dry Bilge Solution?

YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭✭✭
2006 390 EC
2008 350 EC
Georgian Bay
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  • skennellyskennelly Member Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭
    Just find that type of pump.  You don't need all those sensors for sucking the residual water out of the bilge.  Just rig a switch to it.
    2002 - 270FV Mag 350 B3
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's just a sea flo diaphragm pump, about $50.
    2006 390 EC
    2008 350 EC
    Georgian Bay
  • J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wonder where they got the pickup design from.. tempted to get this even though I have a home made one half way done. 
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,885 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Been thinking about installing a pump like this (no auto function though). I would hook it up to my swim light switch since it’s not being used and the connector is right at the transom. I think I would splice the discharge right into the bilge pump hose to go overboard.
    2008 330EC
  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it is a very cool system. Simple yet effective. I dont know that it's worth $400 so I wont be a customer, but if I were out of upgrades and looking for a project this could be on the list :)
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

  • J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seems like a simple micro processor for the controller. Really don't need a controller like you said Aero...but does have me thinking about looking for a 3d printable design for the pickup... or just making one myself.. could 3d print a bunch for people here if someone has one. 
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,885 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would use it for my oil changes too. Just hook up dedicated hoses for oil.
    2008 330EC
  • reneechris14reneechris14 Member Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have tried to use this pump and cylinder type pump on oil and gear lube no luck do work good on fuel and water.
    2005 Rinker FV342  Pawcatuck river,Ct
  • reneechris14reneechris14 Member Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wanted a pump to do my outdrive lube I hate pump that little pump by hand for 20 minutes.
    2005 Rinker FV342  Pawcatuck river,Ct
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭✭✭
    J3ff said:
    Seems like a simple micro processor for the controller. Really don't need a controller like you said Aero...but does have me thinking about looking for a 3d printable design for the pickup... or just making one myself.. could 3d print a bunch for people here if someone has one. 
    I’m in if you design a pick-up shoe!
    2006 390 EC
    2008 350 EC
    Georgian Bay
  • skennellyskennelly Member Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭
    This has me thinking..so I ordered a pump and came up with a pickup idea with stuff I have laying around.







    The sponge Im thinking will suck up residual water to allow the pump to suck it dry.  Going to try it out.
    2002 - 270FV Mag 350 B3
  • J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Genius. Let us know if that works!
  • skennellyskennelly Member Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭
    Pump is supposed to arrive today.  Might be able to bench test it tonight or tomorrow.
    2002 - 270FV Mag 350 B3
  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,946 mod
    edited July 2020
    I have had a hose into my bilge for several years now and just use a brass npt end back in the little dip by drain plug. Never been any issues and works well.  I don't get much water in bilge anymore but it works well after I clean the bilge to get that last bit out.  I also have a built in filter, like what is in the fresh water line.  You guys are over thinking this.😁

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

  • skennellyskennelly Member Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭
    @Dream_Inn - what else is there to do?  I like thinking.
    2002 - 270FV Mag 350 B3
  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,946 mod
    @skennelly I agree, always fun to think up some things!  I'll be curious if that sponge starts to get a stanky smell. I guess adding fresh water in there once in a while may help.

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2006 390 EC
    2008 350 EC
    Georgian Bay
  • skennellyskennelly Member Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭
    @Dream_Inn - definitely a first prototype...LOL might now work at all.  Sponge will probably fall a part over time too
    2002 - 270FV Mag 350 B3
  • Pat310Pat310 Member Posts: 605 ✭✭✭
    I like it. Maybe lose the sponge and just use a scotchbrite pad. Will get the pickup lower and will dry out better???
  • skennellyskennelly Member Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭
    @Pat310 @J3ff

    So I tried it out.  In my prototype the sponge caused the pickup to create a ton of suction,. but so much suction that it hurt the water flow as the pickup was being sucked against the bottom of the bilge.  I removed the sponge completely and the pump seemed to clear the water quickly leaving nothing behind.

    I also want to play with the idea of a rigid tube mounted at the rear of the motor going into the lowest part of the bilge and see how that works.
    2002 - 270FV Mag 350 B3
  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,946 mod
    skennelly said:
    I also want to play with the idea of a rigid tube mounted at the rear of the motor going into the lowest part of the bilge and see how that works.
    That is exactly what I have and it was worked very well.  I actually have it in the little dip at the drain plug.  You may want some type of inline filter too.

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,885 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2020

    Not bad for $29.95, should easily pump water.

    Geelyda Oil Change Pump 12v 60w Fluid Diesel Fuel Extractor Suction Transfer Pump for 5L Boat Car Motorbike Transfer Pump Change Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CNYWQGK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_m3YfFb8AWP91V
    2008 330EC
  • davidbrooksdavidbrooks Member Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭✭
    It's 5 O'Clock Somewhere!
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do you guys open your hatch every time you boat? I don’t want to be down there unless something is broken so the auto function is everything. Especially with leaky steering pin(s). 
    2006 390 EC
    2008 350 EC
    Georgian Bay
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,885 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I open the hatch at least once before the next trip to look things over, usually not on the day we leave.
    2008 330EC
  • rasburyrasbury Member Posts: 8,973 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was looking for something like that @davidbrooks and ended up with a manual pump...look like that would be the way to go to get that last bit of water out...
  • davidbrooksdavidbrooks Member Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭✭
    I open the hatch about 80% of the time. Check fluids, look over everything and look at the bilge level. I keep a small shopvac on board to get what the sump cant. I like the idea you guys have but to be honest i feel it will keep getting clogged. Even though i am on a lift i will get water in the bilge all the time. Either comes from rain, wash downs or other.
    It's 5 O'Clock Somewhere!
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I also have a great DeWalt cordless shop vac that’s perfect for the bilge but still a PITA. I tend to check fluids upon return to the marina rather than before departing. Always in a rush to get going!
    2006 390 EC
    2008 350 EC
    Georgian Bay
  • davidbrooksdavidbrooks Member Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭✭
    @YYZRC i always leave the house a few hours before everyone else so i can uncover, clean and check things out. Then sit and relax for a few before the family show up. 
    It's 5 O'Clock Somewhere!
  • J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wish I could see the inside of that pickup design, would be super easy to make one on tinkercad.com and print it out!
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