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aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
Anyone ever have their engine hatch open up on its own??!! I checked my camera this morning and noticed it was open. We did have a thunderstorm last night so I’m thinking somehow the lightning caused it.  It wasn’t opened by a person because all of the zippers were still closed the bungees at the back on the canvas broke and of course the transom door latch broke. The camera didn’t pick up any motion, I guess because the hatch moves slowly? I have some nice tears on the canvas that need to be repaired now also! When I got down to the boat the hatch worked as normal with the switch. I ran the engines and checked all systems, everything is normal. The pics of the canvas were after I replaced the bungees.






2008 330EC

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    TonyG13TonyG13 Member Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2020
    That's weird. Could something have fallen on to your hatch switch at the panel, like a boat hook pole, etc? Or more nefarious - someone unzipped your side panel, reached in and pushed it? 
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2020
    Nothing hit the panel, no finger dock for someone to walk up and hit the switch. Would be a long reach also, the switch is to the left of the steering wheel.
    2008 330EC
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very weird! 
    2008 330EC
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    J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭✭✭
    someone could have hit the breaker/cut the power...and then come in and done it...what would they be looking for in your engine compartment though?  Did you get any notifications that the camera lost connection? I know Nest will send the last thing it saw before a power loss.
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nothing was taken in the engine compartment. The camera will run off of an internal battery if it loses power, the WiFi router works off of 12 volt. No motion notifications. If the power was cut, everything still works.
    2008 330EC
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Plus, where the canvas snaps on by the transom door, it was still attached. With the hatch up the canvas was so tight I couldn’t even unsnap it to get in the boat. I had to unzip and squeeze in then lower the hatch to unsnap it.
    2008 330EC
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    bella-vitabella-vita Member Posts: 411 ✭✭✭
    Wow that’s strange!!
    2002 Rinker FV 342
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    Aqua_AuraAqua_Aura Member Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This gave me an idea. I have some extra wifi cams at my house and a T-Mobile SIM card. I think I'll set up a hot spot and out a camera on my boat 🤔. 

    This is very odd that the engine opened, maybe water in the switch or relay? 
    1997 Bayliner 3988
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anything is possible @Aqua_Aura . The camera is definitely nice to have.
    2008 330EC
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    reneechris14reneechris14 Member Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Super weird, maybe the motors were hot and needed to breathe.
    2005 Rinker FV342  Pawcatuck river,Ct
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    IanIan Member Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭✭
    When did you last open it? Just as a contact can wear and not switch, they can stick and wondering if it is a possibility at all the contact didn’t quite open but enough to stop it going up when released but then maybe some arcing later made the connection. Just theoretical, without pulling the switch apart hard to prove; if it was me I’d be buying a new switch base. 

    Regards,

    Ian

    The Third “B”

    Secretary, Ravena Coeymans Yacht Club

    https://www.rcyachtclub.com/

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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I want to say I opened it 4-5 days before it opened on its own. 
    2008 330EC
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My switches are brand new.
    2008 330EC
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    dalekdalek Member Posts: 259 ✭✭✭
    Typical Sherlock Holmes type locked room mystery.
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    YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 4,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is messed up, and really a frustrating repair - sorry @aero3113
    2008 350 EC on Georgian Bay
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    SpyderwebSpyderweb Member Posts: 899 ✭✭✭
    That is so bizarre!  I’m so sorry.  Of all the things that can go wrong with these boats, who’s expecting this.  I’m betting it’s related to the lightening.
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yea, so annoying. I think lightning is really the only answer right now. I’m glad that I found a local canvas repair guy. He has a quick turnaround time and is very reasonable. I sent him the pics and he told me to bring them over. I’m still waiting for the snaps so I can use the cockpit cover. Once I can use the cover I’ll bring them to him.
    2008 330EC
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    raybo3raybo3 Administrator Posts: 5,469 admin
    How would lightning open the engine hatch???? IMO no way. Bad switch or intermittent short circuit. Maybe water in bilge and "nick" in the hatch motor wire getting power form bilge pump connection. I think its going to be something like that that caused this. Good finding the problem and keep us posted. 
    2002 342 Fiesta Vee PC Point Of Pines YC Revere MA. popyc.org     raybo3@live.com
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Connector looked fine and the metal prongs also. No noticeable nicks on the wiring and the plug is high from any bilge water. It’s just strange, something had to close the circuit. Lightning can do weird things to electronics and systems. It could be from moisture or water, it’s a mystery. Anyone know where the relay is on an ‘08 330? 
    2008 330EC
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    YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 4,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does the hatch motor work by reversing the polarity for up vs down? I assume so but...?
    2008 350 EC on Georgian Bay
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    IanIan Member Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭✭
    I agree with @raybo3 and doubt lightning. Electronics, yes, Outright raw DC circuits for the amount of time to open the hatch - nope. The circuit has to be made or power/surge for a long time. Is there an actual relay? I just replaced my switch and it was a simple reversing of polarity but there has been discussion here recently about some later models not closing by reversing at the override posts so maybe there are some electronics there now.

    Regards,

    Ian

    The Third “B”

    Secretary, Ravena Coeymans Yacht Club

    https://www.rcyachtclub.com/

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    Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,354 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is just crazy. Do you have video from the ring of it opening on its own with no one there? Or no cloud recording? Is the switch itself new or just the switch cover?
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Liberty44140 ,very crazy. No video, it didn’t set off the motion. Everything on the switch panel is new.
    2008 330EC
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sometimes the cloud recording is intermittent with the WiFi, but I think it didn’t set off the motion because it opens slowly and the hatch doesn’t really give the camera enough movement to pick it up.
    2008 330EC
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    YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 4,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    aero3113 said:



    Hey @aero3113, what's in the hatch beside the helm seat?  I don't have that.
    2008 350 EC on Georgian Bay
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @YYZRC , I have a small first aid kit, a 110 plug adapter and my fuel/water/waste cap tool in it.
    2008 330EC
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    SpyderwebSpyderweb Member Posts: 899 ✭✭✭
    " Hey @aero3113, what's in the hatch beside the helm seat?  I don't have that."

    That's strange.  Mine has it.
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    YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 4,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now I have hatch envy!
    2008 350 EC on Georgian Bay
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @YYZRC , maybe you were in a zone and got rid of it when you did the radio remote and didn’t realize!
    2008 330EC
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    YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 4,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL!  I do love not having the radio remote at the transom door, it looks so clean now.

    I think your boat and @Spyderweb's boats are newer than mine; perhaps a running change.
    2008 350 EC on Georgian Bay
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