410 generator

goalie59

I was winterizing my 2005 410 generator on the weekend and was wondering how you would replace it or do major repairs in the future. It is buried in the starboard rear corner of the boat and I do not see any easy access. I m sure the factory placed it in there before they put the top half of the boat on. Anybody else with a similar boat had to do major repairs to their generator ? 

goalie59

Thanks Al, never thought of that, I am going to have to replace the pan in the near future , maybe that's the way we will have to go. 

goalie59

Big job, did you also have to pull the starboard motor

goalie59

I am having the port engine pulled to replace the oil pan. Floor had to come up in two pieces , first the front helm seat section then the rear section could be pulled. They had to order a larger telahander Because the first one was not big enough to pull the motor. I think the diesels were heavier than what they anticipated. The good news is while the floor was out I could get a lot of things done that would not be so easy to access. Aftercoolers and heat exchangers and went over all the electrical connections . I have been very busy. 

PickleRick

Post pics or we don't believe you. I want to see those diesels.  

What are they coating the new pans with?  

If you can get your hands on them and apply por15 before installing they will never rust again. 

I love that stuff. Once cured hit the pan with a hammer and she'll bend before the paint cracks.

aero3113

@goalie59 , post some pics if you can.

Handymans342

Alswagg said:

Oh, you are asking if we ever pulled an engine in a 410/420.  Yes and it’s a large job. Yes I built the prototype for both 410 and 420    

Even the Diesel version? 

goalie59

Rear section of floor out. The motor is to be pulled on Friday when the telahander is available. I will try to get some pics of when that takes place. I am planning on coating the new pan but I am in fresh water so it’s not that much of an issue. 

Handymans342

goalie59 said:

Rear section of floor out. The motor is to be pulled on Friday when the telahander is available. I will try to get some pics of when that takes place. I am planning on coating the new pan but I am in fresh water so it’s not that much of an issue. 

Are those V drives? Or straight shaft?

Handymans342

Those motors are bullet proof. 

goalie59

V drives. Have one after cooler rebuilt and pressure tested 

Handymans342

That was dirty

Dirtythirty

Pulled my engine out of my 420.... no easy job.  The engine was every bit of 1800lbs and almost destroyed my 1500 Silverado.  

Handymans342

Why did you remove it?

Aqua_Aura

@Dirtythirty is this from last year when you had engine issues or is this new? 

Dirtythirty

This issue is still from last year...Should be back on the water in the spring !

Dirtythirty

@Handymans342  I replaced it !!

Handymans342

Dirtythirty said:

@Handymans342  I replaced it !!

What the heck?

PickleRick

People in Jersey dont screw around,  that fork truck looks like a beast.


Speaking of Jersey i hear a new sopranos prequal is on the way.  One of my all time favorite shows.

Handymans342

PickleRick said:

People in Jersey dont screw around,  that fork truck looks like a beast.


Speaking of Jersey i hear a new sopranos prequal is on the way.  One of my all time favorite shows.

My all time fav show! Second was the Munsters

Dirtythirty

Alswagg , Next year will tell.  I lost an entire year trying to find an engine. The one I found only has 100hrs.   Fingers crossed this will solve my issues.

goalie59

Empty hole. Now it’s clean up time 

reneechris14

Was it easy to slide the shaft back??

Liberty44140

Nice lookin hole! Looks like it worked out well with that truck, is the other oil pan fine? 

goalie59

They wanted to just pull the motor but there was one trans bolt that was right at the bottom that was rounded ant there was poor access so they pulled the whole thing. They had no issues with the shaft. The other pan is fairly new. 

goalie59

Cleaned up some electrical connections on the port side. Going to replace all hoses rebuild starter and alternator and replace solenoid on the same side. It is almost impossible to get at those when the engine is in. 

Handymans342

I believe there is a way to upgrade the HP on these motors

Aqua_Aura

That looks like a new boat however does it bother you as much as me that the other side is dirty still ☹️

goalie59

Yes it does Aqua but I am not pulling that motor, too much work, trying to get all this back together before winter hits.

goalie59

Motor is back in . Took advantage of the good weather. Tried to replace everything on the outer side of the port motor as when it is back in the boat there is no room re fuel tank. Replaced starter motor and solenoid, all wiring/grounds, alternator ,hoses and high pressure/ return oil lines. I hope I haven't missed anything. Now for the floor and then shrink wrap. It took a long time I was surprised at how hard it was to find Cummins parts, had to have many of them made up and Macgivered a few things. It has been an interesting project. 

goalie59

Oh and while it was out found an oil leak at the transmission out put seal, ended up being a complete trans overhaul