Losing Perspective

raybo3

OK gang I will make this short and sweet. We as a group (some more than others) are losing perspective of what this forum is supposed to be. I spend way too much time taking care of this forum (for no pay or benny's) too have to put up with this aggravation and non-sence. These political and personal attack posts are getting way out of hand and the complaints are piling up. I don't need the BS. So either tone it down or shutting down the site or just banning members will be the outcome. I am going back (it will take some time) and deleting some post. If you posted something and it gets deleted use that as your warning. The next time the member will be deleted. 

randy56

Thanks for the time you put in. 

Ian

I second that motion. And agree it is time.

Willhound

Agree. It's like the trench warfare in WW I . Each side is hunkered down in their trench on their side and once in a while pops up to take a cheap shot. Start the armistice now.

Dream_Inn

I agree with Raybo, as we've been chatting on the side.  I am going to remove posts as well that attack certain groups of people.  There is no reason to read that crap on a boating site.  It's time to enjoy your boats and talk about any issues or post great pics of your boating time.

davidbrooks

The whole world has lost perspective.  I am with @raybo3

Handymans342

You guys are straight up hypocrites (and you know who I am talking about). I guess everyone has forgotten how many times I have been attacked for having a slow oil slugging boat when I was RinkerYan. etc. Then when I famously got rid of it and got an RV the attacks came again. Some pictures attacking me and what I have and some words as well. Did I go to the Admins and cry about it??? Nooooooo. And now you can't even post a joke cartoon because it offended a particular people who have a different opinion? They were funny and sadly true as well!! What have we come to as a people or a forum of great guys with great ideas and values that you can't even post a funny cartoon on a non boating joke thread to boot and it's gets cancelled!! And @rasbury, you can't take a joke anymore and please we don't need threads explaining illnesses on a boat forum either for crying out loud. Everyone has issues but we don't make them public.  Now I realize I have been bad but I like to joke, it's just my nature and I have spoke to Raybo and Dream and I think I have chilled out (I am trying hard). So let's just move forward and chill out. Don't forget that it was a few on here that made Alswagg leave and it wasn't me. 

Aqua_Aura

I think people just need to realize how things come across on a forum that has very little back and forth open dialogue. I am sure if any of us were together in person we could go back and forth all day and laugh at one another however that is lost in the online forum setting. Just need to keep it light and stay on topic. 

raybo3

@Handymans342 I didn't single out you or anyone for that matter. Me and you went back and forth on many many topics. I know it was in good fun but it also wasn't a personal attack and that's what's been happening. Personal attacks on groups of people and individuals also. So now I am sick and tired of it and it's not going to be tolerated. Even in your "statement" you had to state "and its true". No it's not true but its your beliefs. That's fine to have your beliefs but it shouldn't be jammed down everyone's throat and that's what's been happening with many members. I have a ton of PM's about it. So IMO it's time to tone it down. Nothing good comes from talking politics. This is a boating forum that has helped TONS of people, so let's get back to boating. Maybe I will just delete the "Non-Boating" category. Nuff said.

MarkB

Happy weekend everyone.  

Handymans342

Aqua_Aura said:

I think people just need to realize how things come across on a forum that has very little back and forth open dialogue. I am sure if any of us were together in person we could go back and forth all day and laugh at one another however that is lost in the online forum setting. Just need to keep it light and stay on topic. 

This is so true! If we were all together BSing it would come across totally different and everything would be fine. 

Handymans342

raybo3 said:

@Handymans342 I didn't single out you or anyone for that matter. Me and you went back and forth on many many topics. I know it was in good fun but it also wasn't a personal attack and that's what's been happening. Personal attacks on groups of people and individuals also. So now I am sick and tired of it and it's not going to be tolerated. Even in your "statement" you had to state "and its true". No it's not true but its your beliefs. That's fine to have your beliefs but it shouldn't be jammed down everyone's throat and that's what's been happening with many members. I have a ton of PM's about it. So IMO it's time to tone it down. Nothing good comes from talking politics. This is a boating forum that has helped TONS of people, so let's get back to boating. Maybe I will just delete the "Non-Boating" category. Nuff said.

Uh yes you and Dream did but I don't care. Are you going back and look at all the attacks on me on all the threads going back several years? I didn't think so

Handymans342

Remember guys that you can't inject tone on emails, texts or forums, etc. I have met and talked to a lot of guys on here and I love all of you (especially Silvia lol)
and I don't hold any animosity towards anyone. If you guys want to kick me off of here let the admins know. 

raybo3

Steve I agree, text, email and forums are just words. However I am a little (very little...lol) offended with "attacks on me". Are you freaking kidding me? Do you remember you saying to me, "your one of the only few who gets my sense of humor"? how many times of those attacks were followed up with texts or phone calls. "people on the forum must think we hate each other". It was all tongue in cheek and never personal. You know that. Anyhow this is getting old. Just say'n

GMSLITHO

Ive never been on any kind of forum before till I joined this one and its great  ...seems after the whole covid thing and the election everything and everyone got crazy >So Im  just sticking to the boating $hit and hope Al comes back if I have a problem with my boat I can ask him   HAVE A GREAT BOATING WEEKEND Im going to take my cover off and get to work 

rasbury

While I totally agree this is a boating forum I find it interesting the varying opinions of any topic that drifts from boating being acceptable or not. Most of the boating or mechanical issues can easily be tracked down with simple Google inquiries. A forum community in any category generally pulls the people side into it as a community.look at the same of the site address in your browser. Some people do care about their fellow man, some do not unless they agree on the topic.. And, I understand that some people do not see any forum as a place to develop friendships and concern for each other after years of being on here...and others want to pick and chose. I have had what I would say attacks on my beliefs that were no where intended as a joke with politics and other topics deemed political. I boats forum which I have participated in the past has way more resources for boat repair than this forum does- but this forum has always been a little more intimate for lack of a better word as we get to know our boats and also each other. So as usual, a few will decide what is acceptable and that might vary from who is posting. Any of us has the ability with a mouse to not read a particular topic or thread but yet a lot will go right to the gutter with personal attacks- and then complain.

I'm sorry if I bored anyone with my personal problems and will take the time, if I can figure out how, delete any of my posts that are in any way personal.  I think the percentage of the thousands of questions and comments that are personal is relatively small and will look at this forum like an I boats or similar site.

YYZRC

Hands down the best tool for cutting fibreglass is an angle grinder. It sure beats replacing blades every thirty seconds. 

aero3113

YYZRC said:

Hands down the best tool for cutting fibreglass is an angle grinder. It sure beats replacing blades every thirty seconds. 

I don’t know if you meant to post this in this thread but you made me laugh!😂

Handymans342

aero3113 said:

YYZRC said:

Hands down the best tool for cutting fibreglass is an angle grinder. It sure beats replacing blades every thirty seconds. 

I don’t know if you meant to post this in this thread but you made me laugh!😂

He was drunk

YYZRC

I am not not drunk. 

oscar1

I am with Handy. I have people here complaining about me ask about hardtop for my boat and calling me Bs. It was nothing about politics and people still giving crap. To soft to have a difference opinion for everything. See you

J3ff

aero3113

@J3ff you just made me laugh also!😂

Dutch320

Appreciate everything you do @raybo3 to make this forum what it is. Politics is a very polarizing subject that I try to keep separate from something as great as boating. And @Handymans342 maybe I’m in the minority but I love your sense of humor, keep up the good work!

halifax212

I check in almost daily for my fix and to be honest I enjoy the perspectives of the community members more than the "how to" threads these days. When a topic like gas prices is started and you listen to members reply from all corners of the US, Canada, as well as the UK opinions,  it helps one to try to make sense of it all. The political posts I will glance over but usually just "mark as read" until the next day. If all non boating topics are banned I would most likely tune a couple months a year (my boating season) and that would be sad.  Have to respect the mods here dealing with the complaints and making tough decisions regarding direction of the site. We do enough of that at our jobs day in and day out.  We all banded together in the early days of Covid for comfort and gave our support to Ras when he needed it. It's more than a boating site now. Peace Out.

rkinross

@raybo3 Thanks for being a moderator on the site.  Please do not shut it down.  I stick to the boating questions and was sorry to see Alswagg go because of the BS and politics being posted on the site.  I am on my second Rinker now (a 19.2) and will have a few more questions about it once my boating season starts.    

raybo3

halifax212 said:

I check in almost daily for my fix and to be honest I enjoy the perspectives of the community members more than the "how to" threads these days. When a topic like gas prices is started and you listen to members reply from all corners of the US, Canada, as well as the UK opinions,  it helps one to try to make sense of it all. The political posts I will glance over but usually just "mark as read" until the next day. If all non boating topics are banned I would most likely tune a couple months a year (my boating season) and that would be sad.  Have to respect the mods here dealing with the complaints and making tough decisions regarding direction of the site. We do enough of that at our jobs day in and day out.  We all banded together in the early days of Covid for comfort and gave our support to Ras when he needed it. It's more than a boating site now. Peace Out.

I have no problems with opinions my problem is with the name calling and attacks on other members and groups of people. Nobody should have to come on a boating site and be insulted in any way. We did band together during the whole covid thing and now that its coming to an end we are getting on each others case over political opinions, in my mind is crossing the line. I want to keep this forum the great helpful and informative friendly site its been known for. I was told nothing good can come out of talking politics or religion, no truer words were ever spoken....... 

Handymans342

Raybo does it for the power. He may say he hates it and it's a PITA but he loves canceling people or comments that he or Dream don't like wether it's political or not. It's all about the power. Sad. I should be a Moderator!!!!

JoeStang

I think I need to have another single Joe summer and post some new pics of the passenger crew. I mean can anyone can argue that boobs and butts arent pretty awesome. LOL

raybo3

Handymans342 said:

Raybo does it for the power. He may say he hates it and it's a PITA but he loves canceling people or comments that he or Dream don't like wether it's political or not. It's all about the power. Sad. I should be a Moderator!!!!

You keep it up and you wont be a member. Simple as that!!

Handymans342

Could someone please explain to me why the truth hurts so much whether it's an article or a cartoon or a joke. If it's true it should stay just sayin