Kohler 5ECD Code UU

YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 2022 in Engine Discussions
Same old story. Genny ran fine last night for an hour. Ran fine this morning for 20 mins. Prepping for lunch and the genny cranks and starts and dies right away. Does another crank cycle and same thing. It did spit a code UU at one point. 

I pulled the port side plug and it looks ok (one season old) but ordered some new ones anyway. Put the plug back in and she fired right up. 

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2006 390 EC
2008 350 EC
Georgian Bay
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  • Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    5e’s eat plugs.  😂

    Past owner of a 2003 342FV
    PC BYC, Holland, MI
  • Aqua_AuraAqua_Aura Member Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    UU is under voltage


    1997 Bayliner 3988
  • LaReaLaRea Member, Moderator Posts: 8,062 mod
    Check the top left fuse holder (F1).  When my fuse holder failed, it gave the same symptoms you are describing.

    https://rinkerboats.vanillacommunities.com/discussion/comment/96396#Comment_96396
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2022
    Will check it. Good to have you back @LaRea
    2006 390 EC
    2008 350 EC
    Georgian Bay
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @YYZRC , I had that happen the second time I used the generator this season. I thought it was because I didn’t have the battery charger on. I started it again and turned the charger on and haven’t had an issue since. Do I need to have the battery charger on? Or am I making myself feel good by having it on!?
    2008 330EC
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only AC breakers I turn off when not in use are the water heater, range and air conditioner. The others are always on. 

    When I got the UU I tried different combinations of breakers including turning the range on (breaker and cooktop) but no dice. 
    2006 390 EC
    2008 350 EC
    Georgian Bay
  • Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you order the NGK plugs?  I had zero luck with any plugs besides the NGK’s in mine. 

    Are you getting seawater flow?  It will shut down fast if the impeller or coupler failed. 

    Past owner of a 2003 342FV
    PC BYC, Holland, MI
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes I ordered the NGK BPR4ES @Black_Diamond

    Flow is good, new impeller last season. I think the genny is just underused (50 hours in 13 years). 
    2006 390 EC
    2008 350 EC
    Georgian Bay
  • Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good one on the plugs.  

    50 hrs is super low. Once I got my 5e running, I ran it with load every week for at least an hour.  They need to run.  Never had issues afterwards.  It was an adventure to get it running though…lol

    Past owner of a 2003 342FV
    PC BYC, Holland, MI
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, definitely low hours! Too low! I am doing my best to add :)
    2006 390 EC
    2008 350 EC
    Georgian Bay
  • SpyderwebSpyderweb Member Posts: 957 ✭✭✭
    @YYZRC what did you have on drawing power when you got the UU?
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do both the 5E and 5ECD have similar issues with eating plugs?
    2008 330EC
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Spyderweb said:
    @YYZRC what did you have on drawing power when you got the UU?
    I tried starting it with and without load. Normally I start it without load the first time (as the switch is set to shorepower) and then subsequent starts are with load. This time it didn’t matter, it just wouldn’t stay running. 

    The manual says it will run for 10 seconds before it dies with UU but it wouldn’t even stay running. 
    2006 390 EC
    2008 350 EC
    Georgian Bay
  • Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Have you checked your coolant level?  Need to check at the pressure cap and at the overflow bottle. 

    Past owner of a 2003 342FV
    PC BYC, Holland, MI
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yep all good. 
    2006 390 EC
    2008 350 EC
    Georgian Bay
  • Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anti-diesel valve would be my next check. Pull and clean w/carb cleaner. 

    Past owner of a 2003 342FV
    PC BYC, Holland, MI
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where is it exactly @Black_Diamond ?

    Maybe a dumb question but could I disconnect the fuel line at the shut off valve and put the fuel hose into a gallon can of Sea Foam? Guys on my dock swear by the stuff and I’m tempted to give it a go. 

    Alternately I could pour it into the cool fuel modules but that doesn’t help me with the genny. 
    2006 390 EC
    2008 350 EC
    Georgian Bay
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @YYZRC
    I just remembered!! My first season with my 330 I was getting a UU code. I was chasing electrical and it turned out it was the injector! 
    2008 330EC
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @YYZRC read through this. When I change the injector it starts on page 4.

    https://rinkerboats.vanillacommunities.com/discussion/10623/kohler-5ecd-generator/p1
    2008 330EC
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do you remember the part # @aero3113

    I believe my fuel wasn’t the best (boat sat for almost 2 years before I bought it) so it wouldn’t be crazy to think the injector is bunged up. 
    2006 390 EC
    2008 350 EC
    Georgian Bay
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,765 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2008 330EC
  • Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Partsfortechs is a great part place.  

    The 5e is carburated. 

    The anti-diesel valve: on the outboard side of the carb. It has a single wire running to it.  It just unscrews. The plunger at the end should move freely.  Carb spray it and the hole it goes into. 

    You can feed it from a gas can: but because the 5e has a fuel pump you neec to run the hose from the gas can to the fuel pump inlet.  BTW: there is a screw in fuel filter at the fuel pump inlet. I got rid of mine and just put in a bronze hose barbed adapter.  I just used the small raycor bowl fuel filter up at the shut off valve.  

    Past owner of a 2003 342FV
    PC BYC, Holland, MI
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Started up my generator for the first time this season the other day. Started with no issues. But when I went to put a load on it it shut down and I got the UU code. I played around with it for a while and kept getting the same UU code and the LOC code every once in a while. I went to check the fuses but of course my meter was dead. I convinced myself that it was the same issue I had a couple years ago and ordered an injector and a water sensor. Went home, changed the batteries in the meter and ordered the parts. I ordered them from Parts for Techs and they showed up the next day! Went down to the boat , first thing I did was bleed the old injector to see how the fuel was, it was clean. Now since I had a good meter to use I checked the fuses. Sure enough, the F6 15 amp fuse was blown. I replaced it and she’s now running great! Now I have a new spare injector and water switch !😂

    Moral of the story, keep fresh batteries in your meter!!
    2008 330EC
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well…. I went to run the generator today and got the dreaded UU code and LOC on the next start then back to UU on the third. I went ahead and changed the injector with the new one. She now runs like a champ. 
    2008 330EC
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