Engine compartment blower

GrahamuGrahamu Member Posts: 880 ✭✭✭
Just completed a 5 day trip and at the end noticed my port side blower not working. Didn't have time to check it so wondering if it's a 3" or 4" blower and brand. Would like to take one to the boat next weekend,

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  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mine are 4" Attwood.
    2008 350 EC on Georgian Bay
  • GrahamuGrahamu Member Posts: 880 ✭✭✭
    @yyrc, thanks, I might have one onboard but I will pick one up to be safe.
  • raybo3raybo3 Administrator Posts: 5,501 admin
    Wait a minute, port side not working? Blower only "works" on one side. Air intake on one side and exhaust on the other. 
    2002 342 Fiesta Vee PC Point Of Pines YC Revere MA. popyc.org     raybo3@live.com
  • GrahamuGrahamu Member Posts: 880 ✭✭✭
    @raybo3, schematics shows port and stbd blower motors. There are 2 air intakes in the transom locker and maybe on each side where the exhaust is, not sure but will find out on the weekend. Hoping the blower is easy to get to :).
  • bella-vitabella-vita Member Posts: 411 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2022
    My 342 has 2 blowers on port side only.2 intake on starboard side and also 2 in transom locker!
    2002 Rinker FV 342
  • raybo3raybo3 Administrator Posts: 5,501 admin
    I have 2 blowers on the SB side and 2 intakes on the port side. But definitely blowers on one side only. 
    2002 342 Fiesta Vee PC Point Of Pines YC Revere MA. popyc.org     raybo3@live.com
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have 3 blowers. 2 on starboard (one for genny, one for starboard motor) and one for the port motor. All exhaust to starboard side. 


    2008 350 EC on Georgian Bay
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
    YYZRC said:
    I have 3 blowers. 2 on starboard (one for genny, one for starboard motor) and one for the port motor. All exhaust to starboard side. 


    Same
    2008 330EC
  • oscar1oscar1 Member Posts: 757 ✭✭✭
    Is it a good idea to add a supplier blower to the eng bay?
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @oscar1 a supercharger would be a great idea - love the way you think! :)
    2008 350 EC on Georgian Bay
  • GrahamuGrahamu Member Posts: 880 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2022
    I have a genset on the port side so I would assume that area would be exhausted. I am only going by the schematic which labels them port and stbd. There are 2ports on each side of the boat and only one on the stbd side has air being exhausted.
  • GrahamuGrahamu Member Posts: 880 ✭✭✭
    Are the blowers mounted close to the exhaust ports or lower down. I have speakers close to that area.
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Grahamu said:
    Are the blowers mounted close to the exhaust ports or lower down. I have speakers close to that area.
    Down low, you can see all 3 of mine in this pic. I would think the same for your boat.


    2008 330EC
  • oscar1oscar1 Member Posts: 757 ✭✭✭
    aero3113.  In my opinion your bilge pump alarm is located to high, But the time it go on your  motor will be half under water. 
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oscar1 said:
    aero3113.  In my opinion your bilge pump alarm is located to high, But the time it go on your  motor will be half under water. 
    I 1000% agree! It’s on my list to lower it.
    2008 330EC
  • GrahamuGrahamu Member Posts: 880 ✭✭✭
    @aero3113, thanks for the pic, I went back to my pics and the very first one before I started repairs shows a blower on each side of the compartment. The one I need to get to is behind the genset, should be fun trying to get to it with my aging body  :open_mouth:


  • mattiemattie Member Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭✭
    @Grahamu
    We've got white PVC pipe for some sections the blower - really slick if you can work it in. One less thing to fail.


    246BR, 276BR, H310BR current
  • PickleRickPickleRick Member Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love the pvc idea.  I've also seen it used to run lines for ac vents. 



    I think this board has the cleanest engine bilge areas on the internet.  
  • LaReaLaRea Member, Moderator Posts: 7,747 mod
    @Grahamu I'd look first at the connector, not the blower motor.  I had to cut mine off and hard-wire on both sides because they kept failing.

    @oscar1 I would not add an intake blower.  The exhaust blowers pull air from the lowest point of the bilge, because that's where gas vapor will fall.  An intake blower would stir up any gas vapor that might be there, and distribute it all through the engine room.  
  • GrahamuGrahamu Member Posts: 880 ✭✭✭
    @LaRea thanks for the tip, I will check the connection 
  • PickleRickPickleRick Member Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Oscar if you're going diesel there's no need for the blowers as you will no longer be running on the explosive fuel vapors.  
  • GrahamuGrahamu Member Posts: 880 ✭✭✭
    @Oscar if you're going diesel there's no need for the blowers as you will no longer be running on the explosive fuel vapors.  
    Not true, blowers help keep the engine compartment temperature down and fresh air into it
  • PickleRickPickleRick Member Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2022
    Grahamu said:
    @Oscar if you're going diesel there's no need for the blowers as you will no longer be running on the explosive fuel vapors.  
    Not true, blowers help keep the engine compartment temperature down and fresh air into it
    Really depends on the boat.  A boat with good ventilation won't need a blower of any kind.  My boat came factory blower less but since there was a diesel and gas option for my hull my control panel still has a blower button, just no wiring to it.   A turbo is a giant blower, if you're ventilation is good enough she'll pull enough air into the hatch herself to keep it at a reasonable temp.  At idle or low rpm speeds the engine will rarely hit normal running temps.  A blower would work against you in colder climates when your trying to warm the motor. Diesels run more efficiently on warm air (not hot) than they do in the cold. 

    But in a diesel set up where there isn't enough clean air intake you won't run the blower before starting, you'll install a thermostat to turn on the largest blower you can find so she can bring in fresh air when it gets too hot.  Diesels run best on clean air and clean fuel.  The issue being the engine hatch gets so hot the IAT the engine sufferers performance wise, if it's bad enough she'll not have enough air that it will choke the motor. The later of the two will be unlikely when putting small diesels in place of a couple v8s. On newer electronic controlled diesels the intake air temps are something you can see on your data log.  

    The only way to find out if you need it or not  is to run it.  A cheap harbor freight temp gauge will work if you don't have a way to log the IAT.





  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have full blowers in my diesel boat, but my buddies with new 50’+ boats have no blowers that they know of. I think I have them because my boat had a gas version so they all got them. Even though I don’t “need” them diesels love air so I do turn them on before starting and leave them on while running. Doesn’t hurt, gets air in there, etc…. Oscar agree with you you’d want to keep your blowers in tact. 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

  • PickleRickPickleRick Member Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Many of the old fishing/shrimping boats with the smoke stacks ran blowers to the engine room.  They ran dry stack exhaust!  
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does anyone know of an ultra quiet bilge blower? Looking for one for pairing with the generator. 
    2008 350 EC on Georgian Bay
  • GrahamuGrahamu Member Posts: 880 ✭✭✭
    I have run a lot of diesel boats over the last 50 years and everyone had blowers. Whether gas or diesel I run with blowers on all the time.
  • PickleRickPickleRick Member Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jacobson squirrel cage type blowers are much more quiet than your run of the mill inline blower.  


    They move a ton of air. 
  • GrahamuGrahamu Member Posts: 880 ✭✭✭
    @LaRea, it was the connector plug, difficult for me to cut and splice, gave it spray we dielectric foam.and reconnected it. All seems good I'll keep an eye on it.
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