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No more flares

StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
Finally, someone is making a replacement for flares.  There has been a regulation that specifies the requirements for a light that would work as a replacement for flares.  Someone made one and got it Coast Guard approved.


Time to go shopping.

2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

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    Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    LaReaLaRea Member, Moderator Posts: 7,538 mod
    Gotta say that's a great idea.  Pyrotechnic flares scare the bejesus out of me, and they only last a few minutes.  

    So, $100 ... I wonder how long will it take for competition to bring the prices down.
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    StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
    Considering it costs $35 for a pack of flares good for 3 years, this is a no brainer.

    2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

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    rasburyrasbury Member Posts: 8,236 ✭✭✭✭✭
    just bought flares so will wait the 3 years to see if the price comes down...
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    MarkBMarkB Member Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If your boat is less than 29 or 30' you need 6 flares, if it's more you need 8 flares. You're not going to get 8 flares for $35, maybe a pack of 4.  It's more like a $70 investment every 3 years.

    Boat Name: King Kong

    "Boat + Water = Fun"

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    Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I saw these at Landfall Navigation last year.  They tested them on the water and basically said they are useless in the day and very limited at night.  I think the USCG only allows these acceptable at night.  If you have ever used a SOLAS flare, there is no 'flashlight' type device that bright.  Visual distance is a consideration too, depending on the body of water you are on, more than a few miles out and a handheld 'flare' is not visible, you need the parachute type.

    Just my .02.  I agree getting right of burning hot stuff is a good idea, but if things are that bad to use a flare, that's a secondary issue.

    I carry only the SOLAS flares, but I am on Lake Michigan too...overkill for inland/river.

    Past owner of a 2003 342FV
    PC BYC, Holland, MI
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    Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,556 mod
    It states that when used with the visual distress flag it is good for daytime as well.  Hmmm, not a bad idea, especially for lake boaters and probably even bay boaters like me.

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

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    MarkBMarkB Member Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All I know is if I'm more than 300 to 400 ft from someone, it's hard to see any kind of flag. For my own safety, I will stick wtih the methods that produce the best visibility. That seems to be a flare for the time being.

    Boat Name: King Kong

    "Boat + Water = Fun"

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    StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
    The flag is the daytime signal, flares are for night time.

    2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

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    MarkBMarkB Member Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Who can see a flag beyond 300 or 400 ft in the water? I think it's a pretty useless signal.

    Boat Name: King Kong

    "Boat + Water = Fun"

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    Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Flares work well in the day too. Usually at that point you are closer to someone to see it. I lit off my expired SOLAS flares last fall (at home). They are blinding bright, and that was looking at it from my end holding it. Good experiment so you know how and what to do if you need it. The SOLAS parachute flares are like shooting a small cannon. lol

    Past owner of a 2003 342FV
    PC BYC, Holland, MI
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    TonyWalkerTonyWalker Member Posts: 744 ✭✭✭
    Idea I learned from someone else.  I keep a number of expired flares aboard along with the legally required ones.

    Tony
    Salt Shaker 342
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    raybo3raybo3 Administrator Posts: 5,458 admin
    I think the expiration date on flares is a crock of........... I just lit flares off that expired in 2004. 11 years expired and they "fired" up with no problem. So IMO buy the "flashlight" and keep your old flares and now you have the best of both worlds... 
    2002 342 Fiesta Vee PC Point Of Pines YC Revere MA. popyc.org     raybo3@live.com
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    StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
    The expiration is not for their ability to light, it's for their stability and ability to not catch on fire by accident.  They can "sweat" sorta like dynamite.

    2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

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    Dan4754Dan4754 Member Posts: 80 ✭✭
    edited September 2015

    Stodge is right about flares. A few years back a friend told me about a flare igniting behind the seat in his truck...without any help.
    Post edited by raybo3 on
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    Michael TMichael T Member Posts: 7,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wouldn't that be nice during a fueling situation at a marina....another video?
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    LaReaLaRea Member, Moderator Posts: 7,538 mod
    Well now that IS interesting.  How long can expired flares be safely kept aboard a boat?

    I did some digging and didn't find an authoritative answer.  I saw one blog that said they become unstable after 10 years, but it didn't cite a reference.
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    StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't need flares any more, but I normally only kept the previous set and the current set on board.

    2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

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    Dan4754Dan4754 Member Posts: 80 ✭✭
    I do know that the flare that ignited was about eleventy five years old...like everything else in his truck.
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