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TonySTonyS Member Posts: 10
I own a '95 Captiva 232 with a 7.4 liter Mercruiser in it. I'm running a Mercruiser 21 pitch 3 blade prop on it. I get around 51-52 mph on perfect water. I've had guys tell me with the same setup and a 24-25 pitch prop they're getting around 65 mph out of it. Could changing the pitch really get me 12-14 mph more? Without changing anything else?

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  • Mike_GMike_G Member Posts: 258 ✭✭✭
    What RPM are you running at WOT (wide open throttle)?  Also.. which 7.4?  Carb, MPI, MAG?  -=Mike G.

    2014 Rinker 260EC


  • TonySTonyS Member Posts: 10
    In running around 4800-4900
  • Mike_GMike_G Member Posts: 258 ✭✭✭
    How much fuel?  How many people?  Air/water temp?  Sorry.. I know a bunch of questions, but it'll help figure out where you're at prop wise.  -=Mike G.

    2014 Rinker 260EC


  • TonySTonyS Member Posts: 10
  • Mike_GMike_G Member Posts: 258 ✭✭✭
    You're a bit high on the RPM.  That motor is happy between 4400 and 4600 RPM.  That's where it makes the most power.  What is nice though, is that with the prop you have, you can load the boat up with a bunch of people/fuel/etc. (more weight) and it would probably be pretty close to the correct prop.

    At 4900RPM, you are leaving speed on the table and running your motor a little high.  A 23 pitch will get you more speed.  A 25 might be too much prop, especially if you load it up with some weight.

    Anybody else want to chime in here?  -=Mike G.

    2014 Rinker 260EC


  • TonySTonyS Member Posts: 10
    Any advise would be appreciated. New at owning a pleasure boat. 
  • TonySTonyS Member Posts: 10
    A couple adults and usually a full 40 gallons of fuel.
  • TonySTonyS Member Posts: 10
    Air temp is in the high 80's and low 90's here. Don't know the water temp. Comfortable. I'm guessing mid 80's. 
  • TonySTonyS Member Posts: 10
    Would love to run in the 60's. Can a change of prop make that happen?
  • Mike_GMike_G Member Posts: 258 ✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    In my opinion, consistant 60's is going to be pretty difficult, especially in warmer air/water temps on a stock 310HP 7.4.  Engines make more power with colder temps.  Might make it there once in a while, but it would have to be perfect conditions, just the right drive trim, trim tabs all the way up, etc.

    My experience comes from myself having the same motor in my 24' Sunsation Rocket 2400.  That was a 23.5 foot "offshore" boat with a 6 foot beam and a pad at the rear of the hull.  A "purpose built" race/speed boat that is narrower and weighs less than your boat.  I could get low 60's on hot days.  My best was 65ish mph (GPS speed, not dream-o-meter speed which read almost 70mph), on a mid-60 degree day... no waves just 6" of chop, 1/4 tank of gas, by myself, with a tail wind and farting towards the back of the boat.  :D  I'm not sure how the 232 hulls run, but I would think they wouldn't run as fast as my old Sunsation.

    Again... I'm sure someone will chime in.  Let's see after some other people give this thread a read tomorrow.  -=Mike G.

    2014 Rinker 260EC


  • TonySTonyS Member Posts: 10
    What do you think I would gain with a 23 pitch? 
  • TonySTonyS Member Posts: 10
    Or maybe a four blade?
  • TonySTonyS Member Posts: 10
    Looking for more speed without taking all day to get out of the hole. 
  • jme097jme097 Member Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭
    Thats part of the sacrifice you make when you start changing props. Either you get overall better hole shot and lower top end speed or you take longer to get out of the hole and higher end speed. I would be thrilled with 50mph on my 280. I think asking for 60mph is a bit much but others will chime in for sure
    Boat Name: Knot A Worry
    2007 280 Rinker Express 6.2L B3
  • Mike_GMike_G Member Posts: 258 ✭✭✭
    edited June 2016

    A 4-blade probably won't give you more speed.  A 4-blade will give you more lift at the rear of the boat.  That's why you often times see a boat with a stepped hull that is made to ride more flat in the water (vs. bow up) using props with more blades.  There are many more benefits of a 4-blade prop such as planning, cruising fuel economy, heavy load carrying, etc., but speed usually isn't one unless the hull "needs" the lift in the rear.

    It's always a trade off.  Out of the hole will normally be better with a lower pitch prop, but again, with those RPMs you are under-propped for the load you are carrying.

    It's tough to get much more detail without knowing the gear ratio of your drive, calculating prop slip., how many hours on motor/how "healthy" is it, etc.  Many factors come into play when it comes to "tuning" the prop size/pitch correctly.   Honestly it will start to get above my knowledge and experience to give much more advice than I have.

    Are you running a Mirage 3-blade?  If it were me, I would move to a 23 pitch Mirage of the same size/# of blades and expect 3ish mph of speed increase.  If you get more speed, great!  If you want to try a 4-blade you can, but a 4 blade with the same pitch is a little harder to turn than a 3 blade.  Generally, people go down 1 in pitch when moving to a 4 blade from a 3 blade.

    Here is a good article about the 3 blade vs. 4 blade prop - https://www.boattest.com/view-news/3276_which-is-better-4-blades-or-3-blades

    Do some Google searching as there is LOTS of info out there.  Many people have been in the same situation.  You will probably find results that would apply to your situation.  -=Mike G.

    2014 Rinker 260EC


  • howardramshowardrams Member Posts: 223 ✭✭✭
    Increasing pitch by 3 or 4 probably won't get you to the 60's though it might add 5 mph.  But don't forget it will slow your out of the hole take off a bit which might impact how quick you can get 2 skiers out of the water.  It's a trade off.
  • Lake_BumLake_Bum Member Posts: 991 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm not sure how much you played with prop size this summer, I see this thread is several months old!  A tool I used, when boat shopping recently, was the Mercury prop selector site. It is VERY accurate, and it was spot on, when it came to the size prop I needed for my boats engine/outdrive. 

    https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/propellers/selector/#/step-one 
    2000 Captiva 232 
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