342 Coupler

i spun the couple out of my starboard engine on my 342. Had them both replaced 5 years ago. Only about 200 hours on them since then. Didn't hit anything that I know of. Shouldn't they last longer than that?  

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  • frenchshipfrenchship Member Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭
    Most likely bad alignement, they should last lot longer than 200 hrs 
  • 212rowboat212rowboat Member Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's dang near a lifetime item, unless flawed or not perfectly aligned. 
  • Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dont think I have one
  • CrewLoungeCrewLounge Member Posts: 92 ✭✭
    Yep, it was alignment. Rear motor mount rubber broke out
  • 212rowboat212rowboat Member Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ouch.... that'll do it!!!

    I aligned mine when it still had a 4.3 in it... almost replaced the mounts due to wear, but suspected there was a v8 in my immediate future so I held off... turns out I was right!  

    so... new mounts, new location (had to fill holes and move mounts forward a bit), and I spent no less than a whole day aligning the outdrive... now, it would have taken minutes if I had a helper, and it would have been less if I hadn't adhered to some bad advice- someone with alignment bar in hand (most experienced person as it's the most important place) and someone with a 1 1/16th" wrench in their hand in the engine compartment cuts WAY back on time... but the bad advice was:

    the 'turns' on the bolts don't have to match... however, the engine needs to be level.. I was told to make sure that if I had, for instance, six solid turns on one side, that is what I needed on the other- that ain't where it matters... the engine should be level, yes, but who is to say the glass on the blocks is uniform thickness?  who is to say your boat is positioned dead level on the trailer or blocks?  these are things I learned you gotta pay attention to... 

    in the end, sitting on the ground beside an outdrive, with an alignment bar in my hand an a tube of grease in the other is how i made it right... it's said "two fingers to install and remove", and I call BS on that, too... the skids in the grease marks is where it's at- if grease is uniformly put on the shaft, and you're careful not to scrape it on the gimbel (shove it in straight) you should have uniform skids in the grease representing the lands of the splines... if that is the case, you're good.. and it's true that a single 1/8th turn of the mount bolts can be the difference between aligned or not... by yourself, this is a painstaking process of climbing aboard, gettin back behind it... climbing aboard, getting back behind it... 

    I recommend you approach it like calling for artillery fire when there are no friendlies present- bracket instead of creep... shove the alignment bar in as far as you can to see which direction it needs to go, then adjust no less than twice that distance- shove it in again and see if you're equally off the opposite direction, or how far you came up short of that- do it again, halving the turns until just one 1/8th turn to either side up or down makes one greasy skid mark deeper than the other side... you're there, at this point... a final tiny adjustment and it's perfect... 

    beware, locking down the bolt can take it out... it's for this reason I'd rec you start out all the way seated and work your way 'up' in adjustments... the weight of the engine is considerable, but that mount can still snag and hold that weight on a single thread on that bolt- unless it's all the way down to begin with... if it's all the way down, it would take some magic of physics for the engine's weight to be suspended on a thread above seat... 

  • CrewLoungeCrewLounge Member Posts: 92 ✭✭
    Thanks. Sorry to hear of your issues. I have a reputable shop making repairs 
  • pault1216pault1216 Member Posts: 206 ✭✭✭
    Did you choose the standard or heavy duty coupler for a replacement?
  • 212rowboat212rowboat Member Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the reason I brought up my experiences is that I know it's done right.... 

    if a boater with an outdrive owns no other specialized tools, the one they have should be an alignment rod... and they should check alignment before each season, and not rely on someone who say's they did... most every person i've ever heard of that's lost a coupler or a gimbel bearing (not due to lack of servicing) relied on a 'reputable' shop to align their engine/outdrive. 

    there are no doubt good shops around, and a few great ones.... the vast majority are just fellas looking to get paid and bounce to the next sucker, it's been my observation and experience..... it's the time of year right now that the good shops can be spotted easier (around here) as their yards are packed and the wait list is at it's longest (with maybe the exception of just prior to the season when everyone wants tune up and servicing to kick it off)... 
  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi 212, I was thinking that I would buy the tool to start aligning myself. I do most work myself (oil, filters, hoses, electrical, pumps, winterize, etc.) so I assumed its in line with all of my usual maintenance. That said your description of how to do it terrified me, LOL! So I was planning to have this done. 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

  • 212rowboat212rowboat Member Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    liberty, it is silly simple- and EASY if you have a helper.... you gotta remember my alignment was on freshly installed mounts in a new location- and I was by myself... I wager I could have done it in five minutes had I someone in the bilge twirling that wrench following instructions... if you're only doing it as a service item, I wager it's close as it is- so all you'll be doing is ensuring that or making tiny adjustments to account for any wear that may have happened (or maybe better said decay, not wear- grease and oils will cut into the life of those mounts bushings- other than that they are a lifetime item, too)... 
  • Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That buddy makes that job simple. 

    Past owner of a 2003 342FV
    PC BYC, Holland, MI
  • CrewLoungeCrewLounge Member Posts: 92 ✭✭
    Well, 212, we seem to have a different definition of "reputable."  I had MarineMax St Pete replace the couplers as well as the transom assemblies as well as the motor mounts 5 years ago.  Ever since, my "reputable" shop has been fixing their screw ups.  So yes, my shop is "reputable" and I trust my mechanic when he says that I was lucky to get that much time from the repairs MarineMax made because even the motor mounts were installed wrong causing my whole problem. I am sorry you have had issues with shops in the past, but just because your experience was less than desirable, doesn't mean that everyone else's would be as well
  • 212rowboat212rowboat Member Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    aaaaand it appears I've disturbed yet another's delicate sensibilities... whatev.....
  • Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And I thought I was the only one. Lol
  • Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You should be having alignment checked every year. 

    Past owner of a 2003 342FV
    PC BYC, Holland, MI
  • Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Misalignment will kill these, I lost one of my original ones and just over 200 hours.  Alignment was off a mile...AND I was paying for drive service annually.  That's a separate story.

    Buy the alignment tool on line, they are like $45 or close.  With the drive removed, it should slide right in with almost no pressure, literally (do grease it though).  If it sticks or needs any force, you need to readjust the motor mounts, it is really not that difficult, having a friend help makes it way easier!

    Mercury has a heavy duty coupler replacement for the small block chevy engines, again, with all the trouble to replace it, may as well upgrade it.

    Past owner of a 2003 342FV
    PC BYC, Holland, MI
  • Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dang. I bet it was previously damaged. Be worth peeking at the others too. 

    Past owner of a 2003 342FV
    PC BYC, Holland, MI
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