prop pitch

GMSLITHOGMSLITHO Member Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭✭
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Im in the process of buying a 2003  270 fiesta vee  with a 350 merc the outdrive was stolen over the winter. Im replacing with a Bravo 3 sea core I was wondering what pitch prop you could recommend Im thinking of the Hill Marine 4x4 or 4x3 with a 22 pitch .I Called Rinker and emailed for the past week but no answer Thanks Greg
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  • J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I had to replace mine, I'd absolutely go with 4x4 first and if not liking the numbers try and 4x3.. Not sure about the 22pitch, I can tell you I'm not thrilled with my 3x3 22p with a 383 motor.. it seems like the 350 with the 3x3 22pm was actually faster top end, not sure about getting on plane as I hardly used the 350 before it broke. 

    Whatever you do, please report back with exact numbers of gps top speed, rpm and seconds to top speed :) 
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  • randy56randy56 Member Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    4x3 by 21 pitch
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  • laureniac1laureniac1 Member Posts: 257 ✭✭✭
    I just ordered the Hill Marine 4X4 20 pitch for my 2005 270. Unfortunately boat is in water but have not had chance to get out on lake yet. It's been terrible weather in Cleveland. Hopefully I get out this week and let you know. Hill Marine suggested the 20 pith because I had 22 pitch with the old props
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  • J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What motor do you have ? 
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  • Cableguy GregCableguy Greg Member Posts: 5,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The factory props on the B3 were 22 pitch.
    2008 280 Express Cruiser, 6.2MPI, B3, Pittsburgh, PA "Blue Ayes"
    Go Steelers!!!
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  • GMSLITHOGMSLITHO Member Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭✭
    Just heard from hill they recommend the 4X 4 with a 20 pitch laureniac can you let me know how the 20 pitch performs Im ordering the drive today so it has to ship from Fla might be a week, and the boat hasend been touched in 2 years so it will need a few fixes I imagine
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  • jme097jme097 Member Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭
    I have 20P on my 280 with a 6.2L B 3. Gets out of the hole nicely. Cruises at 25-28
    Boat Name: Knot A Worry
    2007 280 Rinker Express 6.2L B3
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  • GMSLITHOGMSLITHO Member Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭✭
    OK Thanks all just bought a bravo 3 sea core and was speaking to the seller ,He said if I put the Hill props on I might have a warannty issue if their was a problem. He recommended the 4X 3 with a 22 pitch ,might be a month till the boat hits the water the boat is being delivered tomorrow and is a little rough it was a little negleted  the past 2 years. I think Ill start by pulling the risers and see how they look  
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  • J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jme097 said:
    I have 20P on my 280 with a 6.2L B 3. Gets out of the hole nicely. Cruises at 25-28
    What's your top gps speed and rpm?  And if you don't mind your cruising at 27mph rpm :) 
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  • jme097jme097 Member Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭
    @J3ff its all relative really. Depending on load and conditions of course. I would say with 2-3 people on board and cooler and misc items, at 27 MPH I am like 3800-4000 rpm's. But I am out of the whole relatively quick with my tabs all the way down. I would rather be out of the whole quick and on plan faster than a faster cruise. Im in no hurry lol. My top speed I think was 34 or 35 on GPS. My speedometer is my Mercmonitor which is tied into my GPS
    Boat Name: Knot A Worry
    2007 280 Rinker Express 6.2L B3
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  • Cableguy GregCableguy Greg Member Posts: 5,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @jme097, We have the same boat, same engine, same drive, but I have 22 pitch props. I have a little longer hole shot, which isn't all that bad, but I have better top end. I can hit 43MPH GPS when all trimmed out.
    2008 280 Express Cruiser, 6.2MPI, B3, Pittsburgh, PA "Blue Ayes"
    Go Steelers!!!
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  • jme097jme097 Member Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭
    edited May 2017
    @Cableguy Greg  Yeah I definitely cant break 35/37 I don't think. I have thought about swapping the 20P out for a 21 or 22P just to see how she would do but what for? lol
    Boat Name: Knot A Worry
    2007 280 Rinker Express 6.2L B3
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  • J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The reason I ask is because I have a 2004 270 which cannot get over 37 miles per hour on GPS. I also have the triple blade 22p propellers that were newly reconditioned this winter. It does cruise at about 28 nicely but I can't help thinking that may be the additional torque that the 383 provides might be used better with a steeper prop.
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  • jme097jme097 Member Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭
    @J3ff you repowered to a 383? Is it a stroker? That would be nice. I don't have crazy desire to go much faster thats why I bought a cruiser but knowing you have it there in your back pocket is always nice especially when you're trying to outrun a storm lol
    Boat Name: Knot A Worry
    2007 280 Rinker Express 6.2L B3
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  • J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jme097 said:
    @J3ff you repowered to a 383? Is it a stroker? That would be nice. I don't have crazy desire to go much faster thats why I bought a cruiser but knowing you have it there in your back pocket is always nice especially when you're trying to outrun a storm lol
    yeah - repowered to a 383 stroker.   What I'm really hoping for is that some combination of number of blades and differences in pitch will combine into the highest performance possible out of this boat.. 

    A lot of people told me that putting the 383 in there I'd see a gain in performance.  I honestly have not seen/felt anything different vs a 350.  This leads me to believe a change in prop is also needed, kind of like a car..  you can keep putting more and more HP in it, but if you're using the same stock tires that have exceeded their grip potential 3 upgraded motors ago, well, you aren't going to see much more.

    The problem is I can't seem to get results from many people with the 4 x 4 propellers or the 4 x 3...  

    I don't need to be the fastest on the water, would just like to make sure all the extra gas being burned is used to it's best result! :) 


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  • jme097jme097 Member Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭
    From what I have read on here and as well as other forums is that the 4x3 really helps with low speed maneuvering and docking. I could be wrong but thats what I remember seeing.  What is the different in numbers from the 350 to the 383? I would love to throw the 496 in. Should of held out for one
    Boat Name: Knot A Worry
    2007 280 Rinker Express 6.2L B3
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  • J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2017
    Apparently the 383 out performs some of the 454 engines.. Here's a nice video about it.  http://www.boattest.com/engine-review/Mercury-Remanufacturing/29500118_383-MAG-Stroker_2015

    Not really worried about low speed stuff and docking, coming from a single OMC outdrive this boat is amazing compared to that!

    Just want to make sure it's biting the water as much as it can! 
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  • jme097jme097 Member Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭
    So you're at 350 horse and 4xx for torque and havent noticed a different?
    Boat Name: Knot A Worry
    2007 280 Rinker Express 6.2L B3
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  • J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes. that's true, but remember I hardly got to use the mag350
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