upgrade gauges

GMSLITHOGMSLITHO Member Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭✭
looking to upgrade to a smart guage the boat is a 2003 with a 350 Merc any suggestions ? 

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  • jme097jme097 Member Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭
    I did it with my 2007 280 2 seasons ago. One of my favorite upgrades that I have done thus far. I put in a level 2 (I believe) Mercmonitor with smartcraft link gauges. Awesome to have realtime data and ACCURATE data.


    Boat Name: Knot A Worry
    2007 280 Rinker Express 6.2L B3
  • diggin2day1diggin2day1 Member Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭✭
    My boat is a 2002 FV270 and was smartcraft capable(I called Mercruiser with engine serial number)... removed all my analog gauges and used a vesselview 4. Love it!!
  • StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
    I have vessel view in mine.  Very happy with it.

    2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

  • JonnyMJonnyM Member Posts: 332 ✭✭✭
    The other option would be to go with vessel view mobile that connects to your engine and sends a Bluetooth signal to your smart phone.

    https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/gauges-and-controls/gauges-displays/vesselview-mobile/
    "Mosi on Dahn"  2003 Fiesta Vee 270
  • GMSLITHOGMSLITHO Member Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭✭
    Keith how was the install on the vessel view and what material did you use for the dash ,nice job by the way looks really neat ,could you post the link for the switch covers mine are on the way out 
  • diggin2day1diggin2day1 Member Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭✭
    I ordered the switch actuators(covers) from OTRATTW.com. I built the VV4 mount and the  chartplotter mount out of fiberglass. Install was fun(for me) and very rewarding when completed!
  • LaReaLaRea Member, Moderator Posts: 8,059 mod
    If you ditch the analog gauges, you also need to link your fuel tank level to the engine computer.  It's easy and cheap ... search on this forum for details.
  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,919 mod
    LaRea said:
    If you ditch the analog gauges, you also need to link your fuel tank level to the engine computer.  It's easy and cheap ... search on this forum for details.
    This reminds me of that one more thing I keep forgetting to do.

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

  • Cableguy GregCableguy Greg Member Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have been considering doing this over the last year and a half. Ever since I got the information provided thru VesselView Mobile, I have wanted more, but without the app. I looked at getting VesselView 4, but that is an older unit. Rinker has a VesselView 702 on their parts site for a decent price. I am just concerned that I wouldn't get all of the parts, then I would have to spend extra to get it to work properly. 
    2008 280 Express Cruiser, 6.2MPI, B3, Pittsburgh, PA "Blue Ayes" (Sold)
    2022 Cherokee 294GEBG Black Label land yacht. 
    Go Steelers!!!
  • diggin2day1diggin2day1 Member Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭✭
        The VV4 is on the bottom left and the bigger screen in the middle is(now) a Garmin GPSMAP 742xs chartplotter. The VV4 acts as a SmartCraft gateway allowing information to be displayed on the chartplotter via NMEA2000. 
        I didn’t even realize that there was a new VV4 on the market, mine is just over a year old. 
       For those that are old school and concerned about “too many electronic components” to go bad and “analogue is better”.... The SmartCraft system uses all the same sensors as when you have analog gauges... only information is converted to a digital display. 
  • skennellyskennelly Member Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭
    On a cheaper route with vv mobile this was an idea of mine

    https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32832255743.html

    Not only would it do vv mobile but also radio control.

    Wouldn't hold up in our marine environment though.


    2002 - 270FV Mag 350 B3
  • GMSLITHOGMSLITHO Member Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭✭
    looks like I could just install the vessel view module its about $300 ,download the app,and mount a iPad to the dash.Leave the gauges that are there and no wiring. Done in 20 minutes 
  • skennellyskennelly Member Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭
    That's what I currently do.
    2002 - 270FV Mag 350 B3
  • J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭✭✭
    you could, but then you have to connect at least once a day.. (maybe even everytime you start depending on if the module still has power or not).. and launch the app, et tc etc.. i know first world problems. 
  • diggin2day1diggin2day1 Member Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭✭
    The wiring is minimal... power/ground, Smartcraft data cable and N2K cable. The beauty of it all comes together when all the information is on multiple devices. With the N2K network I can even control all functions of my stereo system(Fusion) from my chartplotter. 
  • GMSLITHOGMSLITHO Member Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭✭
    The reason I was looking to upgrade in the first place was last year half away through the season  when I got over 4000 rpm  the alarm would beep every 2 minutes till I shut the boat off it would reset and be fine till it ran above the 4,000 rpm turns out it was the neutral safety switch .well that took  a while for the mechanic to track down so I saw that the smart gauges would tell you what the problem was,probably not that one but any major issues it would give you a code
    to reference 

     ok the vessel view 702 is $2000
    the vv4 is $1200 
    the smart gauge is $650 
    the module is  $300
    don't they basically all do the same thing  
    and Ill feel Im  getting a little more from that crazy  phone bill I pay every month 
  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,919 mod
    The module does not provide all the information that the vessel views provide.  You may get what you need out of the module, but you just won't know until you need to have it.  Keep an eye out on ebay/craigslist for used older vesselviews.  I bought mine about 4 years ago for ~$250 and then spent ~$50 for cables.

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

  • GMSLITHOGMSLITHO Member Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks ,I think Ill go that route 
  • Cableguy GregCableguy Greg Member Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Rinker parts site has the 702 for $1200. The mobile unit tells you a lot. If the engine is throwing a code, it will show up. It might not give you a description of the code, but it will save you time with the mechanic. It also gives you maintenance numbers, when to change the oil, outdrive lube, anodes and more. 
    2008 280 Express Cruiser, 6.2MPI, B3, Pittsburgh, PA "Blue Ayes" (Sold)
    2022 Cherokee 294GEBG Black Label land yacht. 
    Go Steelers!!!
  • 04FV270riverrat04FV270riverrat Member Posts: 268 ✭✭✭
    @diggin2day1 is this the kit you have?

    https://www.veradoclubparts.com/Vessel_View_4_Kit_p/8m0074096.htm

    Says its for 2007 and newer? Did you have to buy any extras to hook it up? 
  • StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
    There is a cable that connects to the smartcraft plug on the motor then to the monitor.  Might want to see if that's included in the kit.

    2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

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