My Canadian perspective fwiw. Like patriots - don't like Brady or Belichick. Actually I have nothing but contempt for both of them who I think are whiners, cheats and liars. I went to school in an American school for grades 7,8 and 9. I was on the football team, basketball team and baseball team - coaches ALWAYS stressed winning with honor. IMO neither Brady or Belichick can even spell the word yet alone define it. The Ravens would have beaten them a few years ago if not for the stupidest play call in the history of football!
My Canadian perspective fwiw. Like patriots - don't like Brady or Belichick. Actually I have nothing but contempt for both of them who I think are whiners, cheats and liars. I went to school in an American school for grades 7,8 and 9. I was on the football team, basketball team and baseball team - coaches ALWAYS stressed winning with honor. IMO neither Brady or Belichick can even spell the word yet alone define it. The Ravens would have beaten them a few years ago if not for the stupidest play call in the history of football!
When I hear people say "cheaters" then that tells me that they just dont know sports. Every sports team try's to get the upper hand on an opponent. I am willing to bet that no body followed that stupid deflategate as closely as I did. Trust me it was a witch hunt and total BS with absolutely no findings. Just for the heII of it, next time its cold out after a warm day check your tire pressure. To say a certain team would have won except of a certain call....... well thats why they play the games because nobody knows whos going to win. Yeah a play here and a play there determine the out come of a game. Its called sports. Tell me MT what has Brady or Bellichik wined or complained about? They ALWAYS say "I could have played better or I could have coached better". They never complain about refs or weather or anything. EVER!!!!! Most people do not like the Pat's because they win. Plain and simple. Sure Bellichik grunts and groans at the media but he never ever complains. Pat's win tonight 34-24!!!!!!!
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@raybo you have a pretty good memory regarding boats but it seems a bit vacant regarding the Brady and Belichick. Regarding winning - in my opinion there is a very big difference between doing everything honorable you can do to win and cheating. As a former coach of mine said , ( he was an American who was a former football coach at Notre Dame) if you cheat and win you have nothing but a hollow victory.
Regarding not knowing sports I have level one refereeing qualifications for football, basketball, soccer, volleyball, hockey and lacrosse. At 6'6" and at the time 235 pounds you wouldn't have questioned my athletic ability or would have to your regret. I disagree with you respectfully when you say that anyone who questions your perspective of the Patriots and/or winning doesn't know sports as I consider that an ill thought out comment.
@raybo you have a pretty good memory regarding boats but it seems a bit vacant regarding the Brady and Belichick. Regarding winning - in my opinion there is a very big difference between doing everything honorable you can do to win and cheating. As a former coach of mine said , ( he was an American who was a former football coach at Notre Dame) if you cheat and win you have nothing but a hollow victory.
Regarding not knowing sports I have level one refereeing qualifications for football, basketball, soccer, volleyball, hockey and lacrosse. At 6'6" and at the time 235 pounds you wouldn't have questioned my athletic ability or would have to your regret. I disagree with you respectfully when you say that anyone who questions your perspective of the Patriots and/or winning doesn't know sports as I consider that an ill thought out comment.
I have played sports at a high level and I have coached and reffed for many years. I have coached such players as keith tkachuk, Jermain Wiggins, Frank Candella to name a few. MT you said Brady and Bilichik were winers. I asked you to tell me when you ever heard either one of them wine? You cant. There comments are always on to the next game. They dont wine. Cheating????????? Its all crap and you know it. People are just sick of the Pat's because they are always winning over the last 19 years but I will guarantee you if your team had a winning streak like this you would feel the same way I do...........
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My biggest disgust with the Pats is 1) Brady's poor sportsmanship. I have seen a few games they lost where he runs to the locker room pouting, refusing to congratulate the other team 2) a few years ago when Gronk 'assaulted' the guy from the Bills. Very easily could have ended that guys career and should have been suspended. That was no different than drop kicking a guy from behind after the play is over. No difference. And NE explanation was that Gronk tripped? C'mon! And yes, I have heard Brady whine alot after getting hit. Also Gronk complained that the reason he did that to the Bills player was because he was getting held. He said he had complained to the refs all game about it and used that as an excuse for assaulting him. Not the first time I have heard Gronk whine about how guys play him.
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i do think that Pats will win
Regarding not knowing sports I have level one refereeing qualifications for football, basketball, soccer, volleyball, hockey and lacrosse. At 6'6" and at the time 235 pounds you wouldn't have questioned my athletic ability or would have to your regret. I disagree with you respectfully when you say that anyone who questions your perspective of the Patriots and/or winning doesn't know sports as I consider that an ill thought out comment.