Cruisers 390 with Diesel in big seas

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  • StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
    That could be a nice 2 week trip.  Agree it would be tough in a boat you don't know, but what a way to get to know her.

    2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

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  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,661 mod
    I say that if you have thoughts of driving it on water back home, you really should give it a lot of consideration.  I couldn't think of a better way to learn a "new to you" boat.  If you have the time, it can very easily be done in a week, while enjoying the trip.  Believe me, I do understand the upset stomach thinking about it (I get it before every big trip on ours).  I also understand it'd be a quick cleaning and the whole moving stuff into the boat.

    I remember the first day when we bought our first Rinker.  It was the 310 (we previously had a SR240 - still did at the time).  We signed the papers on a Friday morning, and literally had the van loaded with everything from the other boat along with groceries and other crap for a 10 day trip.  We put several hundred miles on that boat those first 10 days!  (with our 5 yr old and 3 yr old)

    Just food for thought.... :)

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the comments gang. @Dream_Inn you are definitely an inspiration. Your comments, along with the others on the concerns, are exactly why we are so torn. We will see, need to sit with the admiral and map it out a little. To add to this, a family friend just bought a sailboat in Bayfield, WI (near Duluth) and is sailing it home with my parents. So it would be soooooo cool to meet up with family and friends in Mackinac in May while we are all transporting new to us boats. 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
    Dream_Inn said:
    I say that if you have thoughts of driving it on water back home, you really should give it a lot of consideration.  I couldn't think of a better way to learn a "new to you" boat.  If you have the time, it can very easily be done in a week, while enjoying the trip.  Believe me, I do understand the upset stomach thinking about it (I get it before every big trip on ours).  I also understand it'd be a quick cleaning and the whole moving stuff into the boat.

    I remember the first day when we bought our first Rinker.  It was the 310 (we previously had a SR240 - still did at the time).  We signed the papers on a Friday morning, and literally had the van loaded with everything from the other boat along with groceries and other crap for a 10 day trip.  We put several hundred miles on that boat those first 10 days!  (with our 5 yr old and 3 yr old)

    Just food for thought.... :)
    That's a hectic week.  Figure 4 days up to Mackinac from Chicago, and 3 days down to Erie.   But that does not allow for weather, and I'd want the extra time to get acquainted.

    Any way you slice it, a trip like that would be amazing.

    2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

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  • StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2020
    Not sure if you've looked at https://activecaptain.garmin.com/en-US/Map for finding ports, and https://webapp.navionics.com/ for routing.  Great tools for finding a path.

    The Michigan DNR has a guide to their marinas at http://www.michigandnr.com/Publications/PDFS/harbor_guide/#t=Cover.htm

     http://www.michigandnr.com/Publications/PDFS/RecreationCamping/boating/harbor_guide_small.pdf


    2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yep we figured the same. roughly a 7 night trip with stops in Holland, Grand Traverse, Mackinac, Alpena, Detroit and then home. $2300 in fuel over 700 miles. The boat will get the same or better MPG than my 342. The good news is that in 2019 she got a brand new radar and raymarine 12" display and raymarine auto pilot. 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What size is the fuel tank? How much is diesel up there?? 
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  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,661 mod
    Sounds like someone is ready to do it!  Plan it for 10 days (over 2 weekends) and go for it!  There's nothing better than the confidence you'll have the whole summer after that trip!  It's why I plan a 300+ mile trip every June!  Then, 50 or 100 miles here or there thru the rest of the summer is easy.

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

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  • Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Dream_Inn You should be used to your boat by now John
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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Handy it is a 300 gal tank so I should be able to do the trip in two tanks (although I would not let it get much below 1/3). I was estimating diesel at $3.50 but I really dont know until the gas docks open. Diesel is $2.50 - $2.60 here at the auto pumps. 

    We will see, the admiral and I have some talking to do :)
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,661 mod
    Handymans342 said:
    @Dream_Inn You should be used to your boat by now John
    It's not about being used to the boat, it's about circumstances out of my control.  Like weather, something breaking, etc.  For example, on my way to VA beach last year I hit something submerged in the water and it was bad enough that it dented my big cow prop, took out my coupler and took out my drive.  That was about 60 miles from home at sunset.  We still enjoyed our 10 days and had new drive installed with the boat repaired 4 days later.  I will say, I try not to let things like that concern me as much anymore as it used to.

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

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  • StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
    Liberty44140 said:
    Handy it is a 300 gal tank so I should be able to do the trip in two tanks (although I would not let it get much below 1/3). I was estimating diesel at $3.50 but I really dont know until the gas docks open. Diesel is $2.50 - $2.60 here at the auto pumps. 

    We will see, the admiral and I have some talking to do :)
    That seems really good for the distance you're planing on.  I was thinking that was about a 700 mile run.  Even at 1MPG you'll need more than 2 tanks.  

    2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yea she should get 1.2 - 1.3mpg at 26-28mph. Not too shabby for 22k lb :)
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
    Liberty44140 said:
    Yea she should get 1.2 - 1.3mpg at 26-28mph. Not too shabby for 22k lb :)
    That's impressive for the size and having shafts.  Looking forward to seeing your float plan.    

    2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

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  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love coupes! She’s a beauty. Congrats!
    2008 350 EC on Georgian Bay
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  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,661 mod
    Liberty44140 said:
    Yea she should get 1.2 - 1.3mpg at 26-28mph. Not too shabby for 22k lb :)
    That's a lot better than my Gas with about 24k lbs :)  The 390 Rinker on my dock gets right near 1.2mpg.  Same boat as mine, just a shorter swim platform.  

    (We travel with them and another 400 a lot, so we make sure he is on the outside.  That extra foot on the platform can be noticeable after a few drinks! LOL!)

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ha I’m sure it is ! Is the 390 the diesel boat you run with? Pods or V drive?
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lib has crossed over to the dark side. May you forever be cursed. Lol
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  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,661 mod
    Liberty44140 said:
    Ha I’m sure it is ! Is the 390 the diesel boat you run with? Pods or V drive?
    Neither....has Volvo stern drives.  Has a pretty good cruise speed...but we push it a little more. :)

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lol I do solemnly swear to not de rail threads on gas issues in to gas vs diesel discussion. 😃😉 sorry handy had to do it! But I am curious on the 390/410
    diesel mpg. 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Liberty44140 said:
    Lol I do solemnly swear to not de rail threads on gas issues in to gas vs diesel discussion. 😃😉 sorry handy had to do it! But I am curious on the 390/410
    diesel mpg. 
    I never did that!!
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  • reneechris14reneechris14 Member Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I remember correctly the guy in the gasser so up early gets his spot at the dock and has a beer, then a little layer the guy in the diesel shows up and has enough money left for a nice dinner for him and his wife. B)
    2005 Rinker FV342  Pawcatuck river,Ct
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  • reneechris14reneechris14 Member Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Volvo D6 is 20.3 gph at wot
    Mercuiser 8.1 is 33.5 gph at wot
    That per engine on a web site this don't at in woeght,hull,....
    2005 Rinker FV342  Pawcatuck river,Ct
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  • Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    reneechris14 said:
    Volvo D6 is 20.3 gph at wot
    Mercuiser 8.1 is 33.5 gph at wot
    That per engine on a web site this don't at in woeght,hull,....
    Are you driving and typing Chris? 
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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    reneechris14 said:
    Volvo D6 is 20.3 gph at wot
    Mercuiser 8.1 is 33.5 gph at wot
    That per engine on a web site this don't at in woeght,hull,....
    Yep that looks right. Too funny about getting there late but having cash for dinner!!! 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • Michael TMichael T Member Posts: 7,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2020
    @Liberty44140 - if we are doing math - instead of the new 502 gassers  in my EC 360 .....putting diesels in would have cost me an extra $56,000.00. - that's a lot of dinners - even if you can pay cash for the up-grade. Even by paying cash you have $56, 000.00 out of your 401K not earning interest. 

    What speed is your diesel doing at wot? My EC 360 could do 50MPH  - I got to the marina, my dinner was free and I was asleep before the diesel showed-up.

    I'm guessing that the diesel at WOT was turning what 2500 rpm? to get 20.3 GPH?

    At 3000 rpm I was using about 23 GPH and cruising at 30+ MPH. 

    BTW - where I boat and even down in the Caribbean diesel costs more than marine premium.

    Diesel with direct drive? Well, knock another 20+ % off the performance.

    Pods you say .....what is that up-grade over sterndrives, another 50K?

    Boats 40 feet and less go with gas with sterndrives over that think diesel.

    My 2 cents.



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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey Mike, this isn’t a gas vs diesel thread. Cheer up man, enjoy the Caribbean! Lucky guy! 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Leave my BFF alone Lib. LOL
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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lol two peas in a pod :) 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,661 mod
    Too funny, I thought about commenting about the cash difference and all that, but figured nah, maybe MT will.  Love ya MT!  I agree with every word you said!  I think you need to make it to Rinkervous this year so I can have a couple cold ones with you!!

    Ok, back to topic. I think you'll love that 390.  Especially the hard top!

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

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