Cruisers 390 with Diesel in big seas

Liberty44140

Ok I guess I’ve been baited so Against my better judgement here we go..... 

Cash difference is not $50k on used vs used. Yea on a brand new buy it’s $50k, but as an example a 2006 Rinker 410 with HARD TOP and all same amenities, 8.1 gas, sold here last year for $10k less than I am paying. Good comparison as I was close to making an offer on it but decided to wait. If all goes as planned I’ll make up $10k in 3 summers, worst 5 or 6 and I’ll break even or save. Could he have over paid and me under pay? Sure but in this market it’s hard to under pay right now. And ill get a $10k or more premium when selling so the fuel savings is more moot. 

Very much to each their own here. Personally I would never buy a brand new cruiser due to the immense depreciation. There you are talking about at least $100k out of your 401k..... ouch!  But I totally respect those that want brand new. Less headaches, good warranty, your choices, new boat smell... what’s not to like if you’ve got the dough I say go for it! I’m fact I really relate as we are living a little more YOLO/can’t take it with you buying a boat like the one we’ve chosen. Life’s short. 

Very excited for the boat, fingers crossed on good engine checks this week and good survey in a few. Thanks gang. 

Handymans342

You did good Lib. I hate that word lol

Michael T

You mean two marine geniuses? Ha ha!

Michael T

.....you gotta love this forum right? Informative and a "whole lotta fun"! :-)

zaverin1

How is the diesel running in your Seadoo lol

Michael T

Good one @zaverin1 I think even the smallest diesel might sink that Yamaha. Although it is a 1.8 liter engine which is pretty big. Nooooo - seadoos at our house first choice is Yamaha but a Kawasaki would do if necessary.

zaverin1

Kawi is junk

yamaha is ok
spark is the best bang for the buck 

zaverin1

I had a 360 with 502’s lol

PickleRick

I can see buying a brand new boat if its a business expense.  

natsb

I have a 390 that I cruise the Chesapeake bay with.  She takes 4 foot short chops very well.  There have been plenty of times that companion boats have turned back to dock and we stayed out.  She does get a little bouncy while on anchor, but I don't think that has anything to do with hull design.

Liberty44140

Thanks @natsb just the info I was looking for. Appreciate it 

Ian

Liberty44140 said:

reneechris14 said:Michael T said:

@Liberty44140 - if we are doing math - instead of the new 502 gassers  in my EC 360 .....putting diesels in would have cost me an extra $56,000.00. - that's a lot of dinners - even if you can pay cash for the up-grade. Even by paying cash you have $56, 000.00 out of your 401K not earning interest. 

Seriously? It was going to be an extra $56k for diesels on a 360?

Michael T

Yes, it was insane. That was with Nautic Global. Now remember my 502s were also an upgrade so the net difference would have been at least 35K. The math clearly showed that I could never get the money back from any angle: longevity or price of fuel.....and when you factored-in the reduced efficiency, to me, it was a no brainer. Now on boats over 40 feet with more beam and mass - diesel makes sense. But to purchase - new - an EC 400 with diesels and pods would be financially insane. Let someone else buy it and sell it to you used......maybe that would make some degree of financial sense.

Handymans342

I dont think there are a lot of 40footers that have gas

Dream_Inn

Handymans342 said:

I dont think there are a lot of 40footers that have gas

That may be true (although I've personally seen quite a few), but most Rinkers over 39 are (390/400/410/420) gas.

Liberty44140

I think it depends on the brand. almost every 39-41 Rinker we saw out there was gas, almost all of the sea rays up to 42 were gas too (I love the sea ray 390 and 40 da) 42 seemed to be the cutoff, once you get to 42 there are very few gas options. Now all of the tiaras over 35 were diesel but that is a much heavier and larger boat. A Tiara 4000 is 46’ loa!!!

PickleRick

I finally saw some good pics of a 410.  Whoever designed that lay out needs free beer for life.   The cabin almost makes you wish for foul weather.  

Liberty44140

Agree Rick, both the cockpit and cabin layouts on the Rinker 410 are just about perfect, really couldn’t ask for much more