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Taking her out for sea trial with surveyor on Thursday. Any advice? 2008 400EC

TonyATonyA Member Posts: 93
2008 Rinker 400EC Longport NJ
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awesome, good luck! Can you give us some more details? Looks like the blue hull needs a good polish and wax.
    2008 330EC
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    TonyATonyA Member Posts: 93
    edited April 2020
    Axuis SeaCore 496 MAG H/O 501 hours. You are correct needs a good wax and polish. Hull and drives were already inspected while it was out of the water. Passed with flying colors. Interior in very good shape. Rear cushions on swim platform need to be redone and owner is paying for new canvas and glass. 
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    2008 Rinker 400EC Longport NJ
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    TonyATonyA Member Posts: 93
    Boat is in Sarasota FL but will be brought up to PA or Jersey shore.

    2008 Rinker 400EC Longport NJ
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Has any moisture readings been taken on the hull while it’s been out of the water?
    2008 330EC
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    Aqua_AuraAqua_Aura Member Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beat the heck out of her now while it's someone else's boat 😁. But seriously make sure you get her out at max power and really run it to make sure there are no issues with the engine and drive. 
    1997 Bayliner 3988
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Aqua_Aura said:
    Beat the heck out of her now while it's someone else's boat 😁. But seriously make sure you get her out at max power and really run it to make sure there are no issues with the engine and drive. 
    Agreed!!
    2008 330EC
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    TonyATonyA Member Posts: 93
    My broker is bringing a Merc mechanic along to do compression test and take oil samples.

    2008 Rinker 400EC Longport NJ
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    TonyATonyA Member Posts: 93
    Yes sounding and moisture readings were done on hull, transom and strings. Came back clean all around. 

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    TonyATonyA Member Posts: 93
    Anything on this model I should really lookout for? Some bad area that would be overlooked?
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As any survey, something can easily be overlooked. I would stick with the surveyor throughout the inspection and ask as many questions as possible. Keep your phone by your side to take videos and pictures. 
    2008 330EC
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    TonyATonyA Member Posts: 93
    Will do. Thanks

    2008 Rinker 400EC Longport NJ
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    Aqua_AuraAqua_Aura Member Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Make sure they check the engine hours from the engine computer. Run the generator and run the AC and heat for some time while your out. The equipment on board may work just fine for a few minutes but may have issues after running for awhile. Run the windlass, I could see that getting overlooked since you wouldn't really anchor on a sea trial. 
    1997 Bayliner 3988
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    TonyATonyA Member Posts: 93
    How long should gen run to get up to temp?

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    LaReaLaRea Member, Moderator Posts: 7,627 mod
    I'm not aware of anything model-specific, but here's a stress test you should consider:

    After you're warmed up and underway on open waters, take the helm.  Then, AFTER you have the wheel, tell the owner/broker you're going wide-open-throttle for one full minute.  Not ten seconds ... 60 seconds.  Assuming fair weather, their reaction should be joy-joy and woo-hoo.  If not, it's a warning sign. 

    Assuming they don't freak out, set a timer and nail the throttles.  Watch the engine temperatures, or assign a mate to watch them.  A 400EC in good mechanical health should have no issues running WOT for much longer than a minute.  

    Obviously, don't try this in rough water, congested seaways etc.  
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    TonyATonyA Member Posts: 93
    Surveyor did say after running wot and making sure it hits the proper rpms he will take temp readings at the manifolds and risers?? To make sure they are working properly. Make sense?
    2008 Rinker 400EC Longport NJ
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, you should be able to put your hand on the risers for a few seconds. It shouldn’t burn you but gradually get warm without burning yourself.
    2008 330EC
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    trip_ntrip_n Member Posts: 747 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2020
    make sure theirs enough gas for 2 = 1 minute @ wot =  B)
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    rasburyrasbury Member Posts: 8,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And don't forget to post pics or you get banned from the forum...good luck!
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    TonyATonyA Member Posts: 93
    Will do and thanks.
    2008 Rinker 400EC Longport NJ
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    Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,594 mod
    I have the same boat. Nothing specific to model to check.  I agree with comments here.  Make sure the surveyor does everything you desire.  They are allowed to dig in to find any problems.  Make sure to follow them around while inspecting, they are more likely to tell you more that may not get written down.  Open every single space to visibly look in.  Take a good flashlight.  The AC under front berth is prone to rusting out from the bottom pan up.  Check for any large cracks around the structural bar on port side that meets the hardtop.  It will have some stress cracks, but shouldn't be much more than cosmetic.  

    You should get a top end speed easily over 40mph.  If clean bottom, 45mph is a perfect top end speed around 4800rpm.  Does it have fuel flow instruments?  If so, cruise speed at 3600-3800 should get you 30-32mph and burn around 40gph.   Any signs of wet carpet or wet around front berth side walls could be porthole windows leaking.

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

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    TonyATonyA Member Posts: 93
    Thank you for the feedback. It has vessel view will that have fuel burn? The bottom was rough sanded waiting bottom paint (for next owner). Inside was clean on initial walk through no smell. One of my concerns is how bad it is oxidized but broker is confident that will come back. Drives were sanded and painted Friday.
    2008 Rinker 400EC Longport NJ
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    Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,354 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice boat! Drives look good although they painted the trim senders which they should not have done but it’s fine, lots of folks have them painted, as long as they work... I hope your surveyor looked at the drives before they were painted otherwise I’d wonder if they are hiding something. The hull will come back but that is pretty bad and will most likely require wet sanding. 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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    YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 4,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What is the wire for that runs up between the drives and through the transom (second pic)?
    2008 350 EC on Georgian Bay
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    Aqua_AuraAqua_Aura Member Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That looks like a light
    1997 Bayliner 3988
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    reneechris14reneechris14 Member Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Look like the speedo tube running down the side off the drive. That hull will come back with some elbow grease, when you have dark hull this becomes a yearly event so be prepared.
    2005 Rinker FV342  Pawcatuck river,Ct
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    Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,594 mod
    Yes, wire is for underwater light.  I have the same.  Works ok.  I would also be curious if painting drives was hiding something. Probably just done because they typically look pretty bad after a season.

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

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    WillhoundWillhound Member Posts: 4,190 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those props almost look a bronze color with a hint of stainless showing through. Did somebody coat them or paint them or something? Just stained?
    "Knot Quite Shore" - 2000 FV270 (Sold)
    2018 Cherokee 39RL Land Yacht (Sorry...)
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    Aqua_AuraAqua_Aura Member Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can see the drives before they were painted in the first picture. They look really bad but it may have been taken after they scrubbed off all the coating. 
    1997 Bayliner 3988
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    TonyATonyA Member Posts: 93
    The pic of the drivers are after they were sanded and ready for paint. Surveyor said no pitting or corrosion and has new boots on them and the trim senders were just replaced.

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