Throttle whistling

lifeisgreatlifeisgreat Member Posts: 16
I have a whistling sound coming from the engine when the boat is in forward position. I’m thinking it may be related to the throttle. Could it be the iac filter? If so is it fairly easy to get to?

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  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, it could be the filter. Especially if it’s missing. Very easy to get to. Depending on your engine it’s either in the throttle body or on top of the engine.
    2008 330EC
  • WillhoundWillhound Member Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had something similar last year and it was as simple as a vacuum hose had pulled off of the throttle body probably from when I was doing some maintenance. Take the flame arrestor cover off and take a look. Also clean your flame arrestor out by soaking and light brushing with some degreaser or paint thinner or some such. But let it dry well or carefully blow it out before re-installing and starting up.
    "Knot Quite Shore" - 2000 FV270 (Sold)
    2018 Cherokee 39RL Land Yacht (Sorry...)
  • PickleRickPickleRick Member Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do you vape or know someoene that vapes?  Smoke is a great way to find a vac leak at idle which is when a motor makes the most vacuum.
  • lifeisgreatlifeisgreat Member Posts: 16
    willhound-where is the vacuum hose located? Sorry for the dumb question. 
  • WillhoundWillhound Member Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    @lifeisgreat I see from your profile and user pic that you have a 2005 270 so it should be similar but my 2000 uses the Mercruiser/GM TBI set up. If you have MPI it may vary a bit but if you look at the pic the black plastic shroud/cover over the throttle body can be removed and you'll see the throttle body with the flame arrestor (about a 6 inch across metal disc that looks like stacked wafers) which can also be removed. Be careful not to drop a nut or washer down the throttle body. My hose was on the left hand side (looking aft) and was probably for a cold start throttle advance or whatever, but just look around and make sure there's no hoses hanging. Little black rubber tube. In my pic I think it was the one at the left hand front corner of the shroud. If it is popped off you should see a nipple that it just pushes back on to. While you're at it, take that flame arrestor and clean it up. If it is partially plugged it will also whistle. Acts as a bit of a filter for larger particles from getting in your engine and also to stop flames from shooting out if you get a backfire.
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    "Knot Quite Shore" - 2000 FV270 (Sold)
    2018 Cherokee 39RL Land Yacht (Sorry...)
  • lifeisgreatlifeisgreat Member Posts: 16
    @Willhound-thanks so much for the tip! So after reading your suggestion and some pics of other people I feel my filter is missing. I’m attaching a pic for you to see. Shouldn’t there be a filter in the throttle body? Could that be the air that I hear escaping? I checked all of the hoses and they seem to all be tight. Should I take out the flame arrestor and clean it? I see it’s a little dirty.
  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,671 mod
    Yes, you are definitely missing the little filter.  Hard to say where it went, but that will solve your whistling problem.

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    Could have been removed by the PO, could have just totally deteriorated, either way you can go to marineengine.com with your serial number and Get the right part number to make sure to order the exact one you need 

    https://rinkerboats.vanillacommunities.com/discussion/8339/iac-muffler#latest
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

  • reneechris14reneechris14 Member Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yup missing that filter 
    2005 Rinker FV342  Pawcatuck river,Ct
  • WillhoundWillhound Member Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    @lifeisgreat those pics are after you removed any cosmetic cover and flame arrestor, correct? If not, as in you open your hatch and that's exactly what you see, then you are definitely missing some parts. Silly question maybe, but you never know!
    That plate you see that looks dirty is the throttle plate, should never need to be removed. I can't tell what that is on there, but in my opinion shouldn't be there. Maybe the engine was running rich, or had a bad spark plug or something and fuel was spitting back up through the throttle body? Mine's 20 years old and still bright brass.
    "Knot Quite Shore" - 2000 FV270 (Sold)
    2018 Cherokee 39RL Land Yacht (Sorry...)
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My throttle body butterfly was dirty just like that. Cleaned it with some seafoam. 
    2008 350 EC on Georgian Bay
  • WillhoundWillhound Member Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmm. What do you think causes it? 
    "Knot Quite Shore" - 2000 FV270 (Sold)
    2018 Cherokee 39RL Land Yacht (Sorry...)
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    Willhound said:
    Hmm. What do you think causes it? 
    I’m guessing a lack of preventative maintenance (cleaning the flame arrestor)?  I don’t imagine it negatively impacts airflow much but it was easy to clean so I went for it. 
    2008 350 EC on Georgian Bay
  • lifeisgreatlifeisgreat Member Posts: 16
    @YYZRC Thanks for the tip. I will use seafoam to clean it. 
  • lifeisgreatlifeisgreat Member Posts: 16
    @reneechris14. I ordered the iac filter today. Thanks for the number. My mechanic said that’s the part I needed and most likely the cause of the hissing sound. 
  • lifeisgreatlifeisgreat Member Posts: 16
    The mechanic told me putting in the iac filter is tricky?? Is it really??
  • lifeisgreatlifeisgreat Member Posts: 16
    Dropped boat in water today. Boat ran then stalled about 3 minutes later. It started right back up and I was able to get it into my slip. I went and bought a fuel stabilizer today when I ordered the iac filter. Going to put it in the tank and see if that helps. Wondering if there is water in the fuel tank causing the boat to stall??  I can’t win....
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Change the fuel filters also.
    2008 330EC
  • lifeisgreatlifeisgreat Member Posts: 16
    @aero3113 I changed the fuel filter on the engine but do I need to change this one too? See pic. 
  • WillhoundWillhound Member Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whoa! I would. Doesn't look like those fittings or filter have been touched in years.
    "Knot Quite Shore" - 2000 FV270 (Sold)
    2018 Cherokee 39RL Land Yacht (Sorry...)
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, if you haven’t changed that in a while in needs to be replaced anyway.
    2008 330EC
  • aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 9,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It could be your IAC also.
    2008 330EC
  • lifeisgreatlifeisgreat Member Posts: 16
  • YYZRCYYZRC Member Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I found a Sierra swap for those in-line fuel filters. The merc filters were $$$ and I couldn’t swallow the cost on top of the cool fuel filters!
    2008 350 EC on Georgian Bay
  • lifeisgreatlifeisgreat Member Posts: 16
    @reneechris14 Any special way to install the filter?
  • lifeisgreatlifeisgreat Member Posts: 16
    @Willhound do you know if there is a special way to install the iac filter? Thanks 
  • WillhoundWillhound Member Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry @lifeisgreat mine is older and a little different. But I'm sure someone on here with an MPI model can comment.
    "Knot Quite Shore" - 2000 FV270 (Sold)
    2018 Cherokee 39RL Land Yacht (Sorry...)
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