Hardin Gen 7 Plus Seawater / Impeller Pumps
Just resurrecting the topic since it is now time for me to do some replacing. My shaft seals are leaking. I've read all the past topics and have a pretty good idea about them but does anyone have any real world experience on the Hardin Gen 7 Plus series since we last discussed in 2023-2024? Such as longevity and value compared to OEM?
My mechanic said he can make the switch while in the water - but that makes me a bit nervous. Anybody swap a pump while in the water?
I know @LaRea was the resident expert on rebuilding these Hardins but has moved on to bigger and better things!
My mechanic said he can make the switch while in the water - but that makes me a bit nervous. Anybody swap a pump while in the water?
I know @LaRea was the resident expert on rebuilding these Hardins but has moved on to bigger and better things!
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Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express
I think I'll have him do both engines since they're the same age - and it saves a trip.
@oscar1 - As you know we have the exact same year and model - and the zero room in the engine bay is exactly why I'll have the mechanic do it. I'm getting too old to move quickly down there if something goes wrong.
Do you have snap ring pliers? I bought a cheap set for $35 ... they worked but a nicer set would be easier to use.
That +$100 can go into the annual fuel kitty.
Hardin's original pumps were great, except the bearings and seals didn't last long enough. The "Plus" models have bigger, stronger bearings and seals. The question is -- do they actually last longer? (I never owned one, so I don't know.)
Since owning this boat I have learned to swap out cool fuel filters and change the oil, but am still a bit apprehensive when it come to things that could sink it if something go wrong! I rely heavily here on this forum for the local knowledge to keep her shipshape - and you all come through in that regards. Thank you!
That said, I also have two local (good) mechanics who I use, but since they are good it is hard to get ahold of them and schedule them. (I'm still waiting for one to call me back about the shaft seal.) Maybe they will tell me to just install a new bearing/seal. But can you even do a bearing/seal dockside or do you need a bench with specialty tools? If he can do that for $50 plus whatever time and materials that would be great.
I guess I was just thinking about the easiest way to just do a whole unit swap and be back on the water the fastest.
For me, boating in the silty, shallow Potomac River, wear plates were a big deal. That dang silt destroyed several of the disposable OEM pumps. The pump body would wear, I'd get overheat alarms when coming down off plane, and I'd shell out $1500 for new pumps. Once I switched to the Hardins, I just had to replace the wear plates every other year when I did impellers.
But, of course, the Hardin seals and bearings didn't hold up. Did I come out ahead compared to OEM? Maybe, but it sure wasn't the slam-dunk I hoped for.
If you don't feed your pumps a regular diet of sand and silt, maybe pump wear isn't a factor. Count yourself lucky!
Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express
I found a guy who was selling his boat and the new owner wanted all OEM so he swapped out his newly (10 hours) installed Hardin back to Quicksilver. So I got it with an extra (new) impeller, plates, adhesive, and stainless bolts for $400.
Plan is to install the Hardin and then rebuild the OEM for future use if/when needed.
I'll keep everyone posted as to the long-term success/failure.
Florida boating for sure is sandy shallow water. Our boat came out of the panhandle with 50 hours (showing) and soon I was learning about water pumps. I think if the seal is leaking then I'm out- I don't have a press for seals and such- or experience so I'd go new at that point. Our boat had around 375 hours before the gauges were stolen- I'm certainly over due for impeller replacement.