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Horizon 600 windlass

Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
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well went to secure my anchor rode today and found this:



Shaft blew out the side!  Still works, for the moment, but obviously doomed.  What is anyone using to replace the discontinued 600 series?  Drop in or at least close?

Past owner of a 2003 342FV
PC BYC, Holland, MI
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    Cableguy GregCableguy Greg Member Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe the Lewmar Pro series 700 is the drop in. I thought that Al recommended the 1000 series. They make a free fall version as well.
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    Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chris, dont you search topics? LOLOL
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    pistolepistole Member Posts: 158 ✭✭
    I have this windlass too. Are there greasing or oiling points on it?
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    IanIan Member Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭✭
    Cableguy Greg said:
    I believe the Lewmar Pro series 700 is the drop in. I thought that Al recommended the 1000 series. They make a free fall version as well.
    Ditto, I replaced with the 1000

    Regards,

    Ian

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    WillhoundWillhound Member Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    pistole said:
    I have this windlass too. Are there greasing or oiling points on it?
    Not without disassembling it. 
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    J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    icoultha said:
    Cableguy Greg said:
    I believe the Lewmar Pro series 700 is the drop in. I thought that Al recommended the 1000 series. They make a free fall version as well.
    Ditto, I replaced with the 1000
    No drilling or new wiring needed? 
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    IanIan Member Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭✭
    Depends how you are wired now. Mine was direct switched and wired from the switches but the 1000 draws more so they provided a new switch and contactor so had to rewire a little behind these (they also send a new overload/isolator as part of the kit.) In the end it was a plus as I added foot switches later and they needed to drive a contactor. If your current unit is direct switch wired you'll have to do the same, if via contactor then check the rating of it - or swap them over.

    No drilling, direct drop in mounting wise.

    Regards,

    Ian

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    GreggGregg Member Posts: 93 ✭✭
    Just replaced mine with the 700. Very happy with it. 
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    Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ordered a 700 today. I don’t want to be rewiring. lol. Now just to get to the underside. 

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    PC BYC, Holland, MI
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    J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I went ahead and ordered the 1000 today just because I figured a little extra power would be fine and I do want foot pedals..

    Got this one for just under 700 bucks US

    https://www.imarineusa.com/Lewmar6657011108-102.aspx


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    J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    icoultha said:
    Depends how you are wired now. Mine was direct switched and wired from the switches but the 1000 draws more so they provided a new switch and contactor so had to rewire a little behind these (they also send a new overload/isolator as part of the kit.) In the end it was a plus as I added foot switches later and they needed to drive a contactor. If your current unit is direct switch wired you'll have to do the same, if via contactor then check the rating of it - or swap them over.

    No drilling, direct drop in mounting wise.
    Hopefully there's a youtube walk through for this  :D
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    IanIan Member Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭✭
    I have an electrical background so didn’t need it. PM me if you want and I’ll help where I can

    Regards,

    Ian

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    https://www.rcyachtclub.com/

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    J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    J3ff said:
    I went ahead and ordered the 1000 today just because I figured a little extra power would be fine and I do want foot pedals..

    Got this one for just under 700 bucks US

    https://www.imarineusa.com/Lewmar6657011108-102.aspx


    I have to say I've never seen a company ship free shipping so fast, this is due to be delivered today... and the original price was the cheapest I could find. Have to recommend this place! 
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    J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    icoultha said:
    I have an electrical background so didn’t need it. PM me if you want and I’ll help where I can
    I understand the diagram, interested to hear where you put things.. where'd you put the contactor? It looks like I'll need to run two additional wires to it, depending on placement... but that'll depend on your answer :) 
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    IanIan Member Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭✭
    I hung it behind the switch, zip tied it with the circuit breaker so it doesn’t move round. No issue since installed. I had to run a pair of switch wires forward to where I mounted the foot switches that was a challenge t there was a decent void to slip a cable through.

    Regards,

    Ian

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    J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    where did you get the connector that snaps onto the back of the contactor? mine didn't come with one... and yes, that's what I was planning to do.. 
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    IanIan Member Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭✭
    If I recall they are standard slide on or ring crimp connectors, something different? Send a photo.

    Regards,

    Ian

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    J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nevermind, I see how it works, tomorrow looks like a rain day here, going to mess with it then! Hoping the 1000 will have enough power that I'll never have to change it again. 
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    Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FYI That 1000 needs bigger line/chain I believe.  

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    IanIan Member Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭✭
     Depends on the gypsy. When I replaced one I did the rode also so got to match.

    Regards,

    Ian

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    04FV270riverrat04FV270riverrat Member Posts: 268 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2018
    @Black_Diamond is there anyway you can pop that cover off the horizon 600 and take a picture of the shaft coming out of the motor? I'm messing with my 600 and not quite ready to bite the $700 bullet for the pro fish. It seems like this little gear get tight on the shaft in one direction, but not the other. Just want to see if I have it together right.



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    Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I can I will. Might be a week tho.  

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    PC BYC, Holland, MI
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    04FV270riverrat04FV270riverrat Member Posts: 268 ✭✭✭
    Black_Diamond said:
    If I can I will. Might be a week tho.  
    I might be interested in purchasing the whole thing from ya depending on the condition of the gears inside there. LMK, thanks.
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    Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let me know. It was still somehow working when I pulled it out.  Pay for shipping and it is yours.  

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    PC BYC, Holland, MI
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    J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll send ya mine for the cost of shipping, you send me more $$ if you think you owe me anything for it. 
    :) 
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    04FV270riverrat04FV270riverrat Member Posts: 268 ✭✭✭
    Ok, Let do quotes guys. My zip code is 40505, Lexington, KY. It will go to a business address if that matters. What is your zip codes and I'll check a generic quote with the post office.
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    Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    49419. Probably looking at near 35#

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    PC BYC, Holland, MI
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    04FV270riverrat04FV270riverrat Member Posts: 268 ✭✭✭
    @Black_Diamond looks like about $35-45 depending on UPS or USPS. I just did a 12x12x12 box at 35 lbs. Dimensions might be smaller in the end. Let me know about that gear that pushed through the cover.
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    Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have not taken it apart yet. It is in the garage. lol. If you want it, I need to ship it tomorrow or it is a week before I can afterwards. 

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    PC BYC, Holland, MI
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    J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    take both and make one that works! :) my gears are prob a bit chewed up.. but the housing and motor is fine
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