@RiverRat232 no I didn't do an insurance claim I really didn't want to go through the hassle plus I had some extra parts laying around the cost should super low I'm in about 1500 so far I don't think I need anything more
Thermal cameras are nice, but it's not a substitute for radar. It's for finding stuff in a crowded harbor at no-wake speeds.
For obstacle avoidance at cruising speed, you need at least 5-10 seconds advance notice. At 30 mph, that's 75-150 meters. A camera bouncing around at 30 mph won't see jack at those distances, even if you're staring at the display the whole time. (Unless you want to drop $20k for the M364C ...)
On radar, a buoy like the one you probably hit will be seen at least a minute before you get there, and you'll know exactly where it is relative to the channel and other objects.
Heck, if the water is flat enough, my radar will see crab pots from a few hundred meters away.
Flir and Radar could definitely not replace each other, but as I said I’ve used one and it was newer, going 30-35 on a 28 ft center console and bouncing around was no problem. It stabilized itself very nicely and waves or wake were a non issue. Never even thought of it. Now this was not in a crowded area. Wider open bay where there were a half dozen boats in both directions and channel markers, but we saw everything with more than enough time to adjust course and again the technology put a pretty box around everything that came our way.... boats, birds and marks. 9” screen. His system was brand new in 2019. I’d be very comfortable using this for a lot more than pulling in to a harbor at idle. But then again we have a 2019 HD open array on a 12” screen that works awesome and I still won’t trade anything for the admirals keen eye, and a heavy dose of caution on the throttles
I'm a RADAR kind of guy (especially at my day job - although I've operated some pretty cool & expensive FLIRs too), so I agree with LaRea on it's use and ability. I know I have mine adjusted correctly when I can see my V-wake behind my boat on my RADAR screen.
Modern marine radar will place an overlay right on top of your chart display. Anything that reflects radar energy will show up as a little purple blob on the chart -- boats, shoreline, bridges, buoys and other things you don't want to hit.
It's mostly automatic, although sometimes you can tweak the settings to get slightly better performance.
If you run the radar any time you get underway day or night, your brain gets pretty good at interpreting the images without having to think about it.
My guess is that at the speed javhav was going, with probably other stuff going on in the boat, even with radar or flir, he would have never seen or noticed what was coming ahead.
I certainly don't want to pass judgement on javhav as I don't know the specifics but going 46 mph at night, you're just asking for trouble.
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Radar will see logs or tires unless they are completely submerged. If the water is flat, radar will see any object that sticks up more than a few inches above the surface. If the water is choppy, small objects can get lost in the surface clutter.
Radar can see through fog and rain. (How far depends on the power of the radar.)
With radar, you can watch and track rain storms from many miles away. A rain storm shows up as a big "blob" on the screen. You can tell exactly where it's raining, and which direction the storm is moving. Most people have weather apps on their phones, but phones don't always get good reception when and where you need it.
If you like to fish, radar can find flocks of birds circling above a school of fish.
I just had an interesting phone conversation with @javhav about marine radar and a whole bunch of other boat topics. Very nice to connect with you, my friend!
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For obstacle avoidance at cruising speed, you need at least 5-10 seconds advance notice. At 30 mph, that's 75-150 meters. A camera bouncing around at 30 mph won't see jack at those distances, even if you're staring at the display the whole time. (Unless you want to drop $20k for the M364C ...)
On radar, a buoy like the one you probably hit will be seen at least a minute before you get there, and you'll know exactly where it is relative to the channel and other objects.
Heck, if the water is flat enough, my radar will see crab pots from a few hundred meters away.
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It's mostly automatic, although sometimes you can tweak the settings to get slightly better performance.
If you run the radar any time you get underway day or night, your brain gets pretty good at interpreting the images without having to think about it.
Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express