Watched the video. It's a pyramid scheme man. Maybe this one is just up front about what's going on but by dentition that is what it is.
Nope! Pyramid's are highly illegal. The reason why, is there is no product! Just money changing hands in a roundabout, and everyone gets screwed in the end.
The product in this, is your data! And it's not a MLM either.
@Handymans342 that's how pyramids work. You have to recruit people to fill the levels below you. The people at the top make money. Then the pyramid collapses, and the people at the bottom lose their money.
In this case, the pyramid recruiting scheme is a front for a coordinated data attack. The collapse will happen when the app developers get bought out or sued by Google's lawyers. Either way, the app will get shut down, and everybody at the bottom will lose their money.
Good luck with that, @Lake_Bum. Don't quit your day job!
@Handymans342 that's how pyramids work. You have to recruit people to fill the levels below you. The people at the top make money. Then the pyramid collapses, and the people at the bottom lose their money.
In this case, the pyramid recruiting scheme is a front for a coordinated data attack. The collapse will happen when the app developers get bought out or sued by Google's lawyers. Either way, the app will get shut down, and everybody at the bottom will lose their money.
Good luck with that, @Lake_Bum. Don't quit your day job!
I won't quit my day job, no worries. I'm a railroad conductor for BNSF, and have been for over 18 years. I absolutely guarantee you, this is not a scheme in ANY way! This is app developers that are GENIUS by figuring this out! Your data is just that....yours! I don't want to jeopardize my Rinker account. I have no bad intentions.
Isn't it against the site rules to post outside links here? I thought it was. At this point, I'll post it here....if allowed? This is NOT a trick lol
I'm waiting for @Handymans342 's call. A phonecall is a really quick way to explain this. I'm going to be working in like 90 minutes, and will be on my train all day. So my lack of response on here today, is simply because of that.
I'm off work ALL day tomorrow. I'm not trying to scam anyone! This thing is real.
@Handymans342 that's how pyramids work. You have to recruit people to fill the levels below you. The people at the top make money. Then the pyramid collapses, and the people at the bottom lose their money.
In this case, the pyramid recruiting scheme is a front for a coordinated data attack. The collapse will happen when the app developers get bought out or sued by Google's lawyers. Either way, the app will get shut down, and everybody at the bottom will lose their money.
Good luck with that, @Lake_Bum. Don't quit your day job!
How can you lose money if you don’t put any in??? I trust your opinion C
⬆️ This one has a member (free) join link towards the top, or you can scroll down for some more information below it, and there's an affiliate join link ($9.95) as well. SHOWmetheBenjamins is my username.
I'm about to be on a train all day, so my lack of responses today, is because of that. I'm off work all day tomorrow. I'm not looking to trick anyone. This thing is REAL.
@Lake_Bum My father was an engineer for the Pennsylvania Railroad back in the day. I grew up around locomotives and to this day, I still love watching them go by. My brother as well. Today he is in St Louis to watch the Union Pacific Challenger steam engine pull out and head back to California. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OgSNQOTw2U&ab_channel=SteamUP
They claim users can participate for free. BUT WAIT -- you can only make real money if you pay $10/month!
The company claims to be harvesting data, selling it for big bucks, and giving users a cut of the profits. Well then, why bother collecting payments? Why not just have users run the app, and pay them for their contribution to this massive stream of data revenues?
The answer is that TAPESTRI HAS NO REVENUES FROM DATA. Location data from a handful of phones is worthless. It's only valuable if you collect massive quantities, and apply the sort of advanced processing that Google and others have developed over the years. Tapestri only has one revenue stream: the pyramid structure of monthly fees.
In addition to paying a monthly fee, your earnings (and this is a direct quote from Tapestri) "are based on your own individual effort." In other words, you have to invest many spend hours recruiting others into the tier below you, which is what LB is doing in this thread. That's straight out of the pyramid handbook.
I saw similar conversations on Reddit and other platforms. Affiliates are saying "get rich quick, not a pyramid, too good to be true!" Skeptics like me are saying "poppycock."
If @Lake_Bum suddenly leaves here and joins the Hinckley owner's forum, you'll know I was wrong.
I'm not leaving here, because I love my Rinker @LaRea . Your assumptions of this company are 100% incorrect. I've been in this only 2 weeks, and I've watched the Zoom calls they do a couple times a week. I've watched countless videos. This is not a pyramid. You can keep saying it, but the fact of the matter is, it's not. This picture was taken to simply prove to you, I'm a real guy. Not some imposter. It was taken while I was stopped, within my rules. I spoke with @Handymans342 for like 15 minutes on the phone this morning. You should be pretty used to his sense of humor by now, by him calling me a BOT was purely a joke. This is NOT a pyramid or an MLM. It is a 2 tier, brand affiliate referral program. You seem to be sort of angry with me, and I get the skepticism, but this isn't shady in any way. That's the facts.
Angry? No. I am disappointed that you fell for it. Angry is what I'll be if other forum members lose money because of you.
You keep falling back on the phrase "2 tier" ... but each tier is compensated based on every tier below it. That is the very definition of a pyramid. How can you not see that?
It is the business model. That is the payment structure. It is a network, yes.
Because it happens to be "shaped" like a pyramid, doesn't make it that way.
Your location data, and everyone else here, and anyone, anywhere, your info is harvested for HUGE money to marketing firms and corporations. This app, turns the tables on that. Tapestri has not hidden the fact they will sell your anonymous data. That's very transparent.
How have they turned the tables? Does this now block the other companies from getting my data and if so that means my apps will work less intuitively and make using my phone harder.
They'd have a tough time with me. My location data is always turned off. Ok, they know what cell towers I'm bouncing off, but no definite location. I even use a standalone GPS in my vehicle. I read George Orwell's 1984 in highschool. Chilling stuff. But Big Brother doesn't need to watch.We give it to them. At least the unwise do.
They'd have a tough time with me. My location data is always turned off. Ok, they know what cell towers I'm bouncing off, but no definite location. I even use a standalone GPS in my vehicle. I read George Orwell's 1984 in highschool. Chilling stuff. But Big Brother doesn't need to watch.We give it to them. At least the unwise do.
Unfortunately even turning your cellphone off doesn't prevent this anymore. There are some interesting experiments out there on YouTube by some pretty techy people. Travel around to specific locations with their phone off. Turn their phone on at the end of the day and all this data that the phone was tracking while "OFF" is immediately uploaded to the manufacturers.
They tapped into the phones wireless signals and monitored all the data that was uploaded. Interesting and scary stuff.
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The product in this, is your data! And it's not a MLM either.
In this case, the pyramid recruiting scheme is a front for a coordinated data attack. The collapse will happen when the app developers get bought out or sued by Google's lawyers. Either way, the app will get shut down, and everybody at the bottom will lose their money.
Good luck with that, @Lake_Bum. Don't quit your day job!
Isn't it against the site rules to post outside links here? I thought it was. At this point, I'll post it here....if allowed? This is NOT a trick lol
I'm off work ALL day tomorrow. I'm not trying to scam anyone! This thing is real.
I'm going to post several links.
Mods....if that isn't allowed, please just nuke that post, not the whole thread.
I'm about to be on a train all day, so my lack of responses today, is because of that. I'm off work all day tomorrow. I'm not looking to trick anyone. This thing is REAL.
@LaRea I'm not quitting my regular job. No worries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OgSNQOTw2U&ab_channel=SteamUP
They claim users can participate for free. BUT WAIT -- you can only make real money if you pay $10/month!
The company claims to be harvesting data, selling it for big bucks, and giving users a cut of the profits. Well then, why bother collecting payments? Why not just have users run the app, and pay them for their contribution to this massive stream of data revenues?
The answer is that TAPESTRI HAS NO REVENUES FROM DATA. Location data from a handful of phones is worthless. It's only valuable if you collect massive quantities, and apply the sort of advanced processing that Google and others have developed over the years. Tapestri only has one revenue stream: the pyramid structure of monthly fees.
In addition to paying a monthly fee, your earnings (and this is a direct quote from Tapestri) "are based on your own individual effort." In other words, you have to invest many spend hours recruiting others into the tier below you, which is what LB is doing in this thread. That's straight out of the pyramid handbook.
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If @Lake_Bum suddenly leaves here and joins the Hinckley owner's forum, you'll know I was wrong.
I'm not leaving here, because I love my Rinker @LaRea .
Your assumptions of this company are 100% incorrect. I've been in this only 2 weeks, and I've watched the Zoom calls they do a couple times a week. I've watched countless videos. This is not a pyramid. You can keep saying it, but the fact of the matter is, it's not.
This picture was taken to simply prove to you, I'm a real guy. Not some imposter. It was taken while I was stopped, within my rules. I spoke with @Handymans342 for like 15 minutes on the phone this morning. You should be pretty used to his sense of humor by now, by him calling me a BOT was purely a joke.
This is NOT a pyramid or an MLM. It is a 2 tier, brand affiliate referral program. You seem to be sort of angry with me, and I get the skepticism, but this isn't shady in any way. That's the facts.
You keep falling back on the phrase "2 tier" ... but each tier is compensated based on every tier below it. That is the very definition of a pyramid. How can you not see that?
Because it happens to be "shaped" like a pyramid, doesn't make it that way.
Your location data, and everyone else here, and anyone, anywhere, your info is harvested for HUGE money to marketing firms and corporations.
This app, turns the tables on that. Tapestri has not hidden the fact they will sell your anonymous data. That's very transparent.
Has the company shared any proof that it has clients to buy the data? Who exactly is buying it? What are the company's revenues from data sales?
And I haven't even started talking about the security implications.
Okay, I've had my say. If I've convinced even one person not to fall for this scam, I've made the world a slightly better place.
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They tapped into the phones wireless signals and monitored all the data that was uploaded. Interesting and scary stuff.