TV/Cable Aboard

Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
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We have marina wifi, its not awesome but we can stream netflix and hulu basic as long as our timing doesn't coincide with with other boat's kids movie time. Anyway looking to cut cable at home and go with Hulu Live for home cable and for use at the boat and looking for your ideas to mirror. For those that dont know Hulu Live is like cable. You can watch all of your channels, including local, on Hulu live and you get 40+ hrs of DVR and of course Hulu. $45/mo. The biggest drawback of Hulu Live is that you must pick your "home" IP address for smart TV's and Roku/Fire stick so for the boat TV we cant use the sticks or smart TV. But, you can watch Hulu Live on your ipad/iphone anywhere so we must mirror on the boat. Airplay wont work because its public Wifi. After some online research it looks like the only way to mirror my ipad to the TV without using airplay/wifi is going to be a hard cable. Looking for any other ideas from those that like to have dockside cable? Thanks
07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • cmelt2003cmelt2003 Member Posts: 72 ✭✭
    Chromecast?
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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cmelt2003 said:
    Chromecast?
    Wish that was an option but it requires wifi to cast. Trying to stay away from wifi as a requirement to mirror. 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,962 mod
    I looked into this last year for a little bit and then decided I didn't need it (I just use my Roku with connectivity to the marina wifi - yes, I pay for cable at home).  Anyway, here is one of the things I had looked into that does not need wifi support:

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O14JG2Y/?coliid=I14SJIASWZF98B&colid=2Q44B212P84PT&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it


    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks @Dream_Inn. Man I was so excited reading through that amazon product until I got to "not compatable with apple devices" :( We are all apple due to our company's issuing us apple. Honestly though this has me considering just buying a cheap droid tablet to do what I want to do wireless.....
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • cmelt2003cmelt2003 Member Posts: 72 ✭✭
    edited May 2019
    It looks like you can mirror your device without having to use WiFi. So if you have a movie downloaded from Netflix, you can play to the chromecast without WiFi simply by mirroring it. At least that’s what I’m reading. 

    https://www.alphr.com/google/google-chromecast/1002449/how-to-use-chromecast-without-wi-fi-making-the-most-of-google-s
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  • IanIan Member Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, direct from ipad to TV - but that does need to have it on your iPad. If not, you can get a dongle that you plug into the lightning port and TV HDMI: https://www.amazon.com/Lighting-Adapter-Digital-Charging-Projector/dp/B07Q7YLRVG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?hvadid=77996631774986&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=lightning-to-hdmi+adapter&qid=1558383531&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

    Regards,

    Ian

    The Third “B”

    Ravena Coeymans Yacht Club

    https://www.rcyachtclub.com/

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  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,962 mod
    Yes, I did a lot of reading on the chromecast one and just wasn't sure if it could really do what was needed.  Liberty, I had the option of Apple or Droid from my company, and went with droid since that is what I'm used to.  A cheap droid tablet may work.

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

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  • Black_DiamondBlack_Diamond Member Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a DISH tailgater. $5/ month if you have DISH tv at home. 

    Past owner of a 2003 342FV
    PC BYC, Holland, MI
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  • Dude_HimselfDude_Himself Member Posts: 596 ✭✭✭
    Liberty44140 said:
    cmelt2003 said:
    Chromecast?
    Wish that was an option but it requires wifi to cast. Trying to stay away from wifi as a requirement to mirror. 
    Not true - Google sells a wired-ethernet adapter for $10.
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  • Cableguy GregCableguy Greg Member Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have the lightning to HDMI dongle to play my iPad on my TV in the boat. It works great.
    2008 280 Express Cruiser, 6.2MPI, B3, Pittsburgh, PA "Blue Ayes" (Sold)
    2022 Cherokee 294GEBG Black Label land yacht. 
    Go Steelers!!!
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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Black_Diamond said:
    I have a DISH tailgater. $5/ month if you have DISH tv at home. 
    Definitely a consideration, can you access the dvr using this?
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dude_Himself said:
    Liberty44140 said:
    cmelt2003 said:
    Chromecast?
    Wish that was an option but it requires wifi to cast. Trying to stay away from wifi as a requirement to mirror. 
    Not true - Google sells a wired-ethernet adapter for $10.
    Can you post a link to the adaptor? Will it work with Apple? I spent a lot of time looking in to google options and this never came up. 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cableguy Greg said:
    I have the lightning to HDMI dongle to play my iPad on my TV in the boat. It works great.
    Good to hear, leaning this way. Reviews are bad but I’d just buy it direct from Apple for $10 more than amazon and if there is a problem I can always take it back to the Apple store. $50
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
    I feel very low tech.  I have a regular TV antenna going to my 12v TV, and a 12v BluRay player that has USB and SD inputs.  So I can play media on thumb drive, disk, or memory cards from cameras.  Except the GoPro, which uses an MP4 format that is not vanilla.  

    More often than not I watch regular over the air TV.

    I do have a DVD movie collection on board which includes (IMO) a required copy of Jaws.

    2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

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  • skennellyskennelly Member Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭
    @Stodge - No Captain Ron?
    2002 - 270FV Mag 350 B3
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  • StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
    @skennelly No, but I will watch for it in the DVD bins at Walmart.  :)

    2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

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  • IanIan Member Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stodge said:
     Except the GoPro, which uses an MP4 format that is not vanilla.
    Sure? I have no issues playing GoPro video on both Windows and Apple devices natively outside their app and shared from a dropbox location to others.

    Regards,

    Ian

    The Third “B”

    Ravena Coeymans Yacht Club

    https://www.rcyachtclub.com/

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  • StodgeStodge Member Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2019
    icoultha said:
    Stodge said:
     Except the GoPro, which uses an MP4 format that is not vanilla.
    Sure? I have no issues playing GoPro video on both Windows and Apple devices natively outside their app and shared from a dropbox location to others.
    Some devices like them.  My BluRay player in the boat does not.  :neutral:

    Need to see if it likes the video my Spark shoots.

    2002 FV 342 on Lake St. Clair - Past Commodore SHC - Vessel Examiner USCGAUX

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  • MarkBMarkB Member Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Preload on your device at home, and then get an APPLE TV, hook it up to one of the HDMI ports and then cast from device to the APPLE TV unit.

    Boat Name: King Kong

    "Boat + Water = Fun"

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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MarkB said:
    Preload on your device at home, and then get an APPLE TV, hook it up to one of the HDMI ports and then cast from device to the APPLE TV unit.
    Tried this: You need WiFi to cast from iPhone/pad to Apple TV. There is a way to do it on Bluetooth but it’s very clunky and doesn’t work. And airplay doesn’t work on public WiFi 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • rinker270nbrinker270nb Member Posts: 207 ✭✭✭
    Checkout YoutubeTv, I think there's a free trial, it's tech is best and it has local channels,DVR, etc. I pay $35 a month and cut the cord at home, it's easy and works well w Chromecast.
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  • User123User123 Member Posts: 1 ✭
    great
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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I considered UTube but according to the site their TV service with all the local and DVR is $50 per month and goes up from there. I went Hulu Live because you get all that, plus Hulu itself, for $45. Ended up buying the Apple Lightning/HDMI connector to hard wire my iPad to the boat TV to get everything. Will report back next week on how things went over the holiday. Bought connector directly from Apple so that it has a 1 year warranty and is easily returnable if it doesnt work. 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • cmelt2003cmelt2003 Member Posts: 72 ✭✭
    Liberty44140 said:
    I considered UTube but according to the site their TV service with all the local and DVR is $50 per month and goes up from there. I went Hulu Live because you get all that, plus Hulu itself, for $45. Ended up buying the Apple Lightning/HDMI connector to hard wire my iPad to the boat TV to get everything. Will report back next week on how things went over the holiday. Bought connector directly from Apple so that it has a 1 year warranty and is easily returnable if it doesnt work. 
    Are you just going to play downloaded content, or try to use the public WiFi to stream, or use data plan to stream?
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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Both pre downloaded and public marina WiFi to stream, but airplay won’t work on public WiFi 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • Cableguy GregCableguy Greg Member Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Liberty44140 said:
    Both pre downloaded and public marina WiFi to stream, but airplay won’t work on public WiFi 
    Set up a VPN and log into your house thru that. You can spoof the airplay into working that way.
    2008 280 Express Cruiser, 6.2MPI, B3, Pittsburgh, PA "Blue Ayes" (Sold)
    2022 Cherokee 294GEBG Black Label land yacht. 
    Go Steelers!!!
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  • MarkBMarkB Member Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Liberty44140 said:
    MarkB said:
    Preload on your device at home, and then get an APPLE TV, hook it up to one of the HDMI ports and then cast from device to the APPLE TV unit.
    Tried this: You need WiFi to cast from iPhone/pad to Apple TV. There is a way to do it on Bluetooth but it’s very clunky and doesn’t work. And airplay doesn’t work on public WiFi 

    Just create a VPN on your phone, use that as the local wifi. It won't use any air time, as it is all local.

    Boat Name: King Kong

    "Boat + Water = Fun"

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  • cmelt2003cmelt2003 Member Posts: 72 ✭✭
    Any update? 
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  • Liberty44140Liberty44140 Member Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey sorry for the delay. It’s been working great with the Apple lightning hdmi connector. Hulu live and Netflix show up on the screen perfectly. We watched a movie during the rain this morning. Hard wire is the only draw back, but it works so we are happy. Admiral is super happy to have her dvr onboard 
    07' Cruisers 390 (Previous Rinker's: 06' 342EC & 01' 310FV)

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  • cmelt2003cmelt2003 Member Posts: 72 ✭✭
    Did you just do the one from Apple or something different?
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