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for 18 years i worked with CBRNE response- logistics, training, exercise- detection, response, mitigation... we, along with several agencies, wrote the federally adopted pandemic response plan, and re-wrote it every 3 years.
i stepped out of that work in May of '19. We worked through, in years prior, the ebola and the H1N1 events...
unlike those with a platform and intent to offer whatever fits their agenda, i can't communicate expertise... but i can point out a bunch of inconsistencies and contradictions that should give anyone pause about this pandemic.
there is SO much 'fail' with the response to this one it taxes comprehension. there is so much, in fact, it defies any logic, reason, or accountability. why? politics, and- why it's hard to have this discussion.
your masks are useless other than some statement of unity. they are useless. they have zero ability to protect anyone- neither the wearer nor those around you are protected one bit by the masks being employed. for you to have a mask that even approximates the supposed protections you'd have to be fitted and trained. stretching a panty over your head is nothing but making a statement. it doesn't matter how many people repeat what the idiot box tells them, they can't change that truth. not only is the physical characteristics of the mask incapable (n95 or surgical masks alike) of stopping transmission, they are capable of causing problems by themselves.
we 'did' issue n95's as 'escape masks' for building's occupants. they work for that- to get 'out of the way'- they protect the user from large particulates. they don't stop small particulates, which is how a virus transports. a 'proper' n95 has little valves for exhaled breath- and is wholly unfiltered. why is that? because exhaling through a filter clogs and saturates the mask, promptly rendering it useless or contaminated. If the mask was capable of stopping 98% of the particulates within a size range concerning to transmission of an illness, every time you exhale (without those valves) you exhale a portion of those particulates into a mask that is damp- capturing it. Particulates within the size range of viruses are capable of being inhaled, so, they need to be in the 3~5uC range... to remain in the lungs, they need to be small enough to be inhaled but large enough to 'stick', else they are literally exhausted right back out... when you are wearing a surgical mask (or a panty), you quickly saturate the surface, which is like velcro for virus. this makes the mask more dangerous than it is good- especially if you wear it any appreciable amount of time.... congrats, you just gave yourself covid-19, or a cold, or the seasonal flu, or whatever else you came into contact with...
where are the biohazard waste containers? where do you dispose of your masks? do you just keep wearing them day after day? how smart do you think that is? if the wearing of masks is protective to both the wearer and those around the wearer, then those masks would be of a huge concern to properly dispose of- you would find bio-hazard waste container everywhere much like you do in laboratories or areas where there are known hazardous materials.
H1N1 was every bit as serious as this COVID-19 is. where was the response then? is there something more to be gained by 'this' response than the 'other'? .... and in that, the answer is obvious. especially when you consider the reaction within states is straight down the 'party' line- the 'party' (either;both) that are at war- AT WAR- and recklessly involving all of us as their pawns. You can't go to church- nor to a mom-n-pop store.. you can go to major box stores, though. you can't have a political rally but you can protest... you can't speak against the 'rules' implemented by a single person (governors) and considered 'laws' but you can follow along and be left alone...
if you think this is about 'masks' you're out of your minds.
"conformity as a virtue" comes to mind. people 'virtue signalling' as they've drank the cool-aide and then looking down their noses at those who haven't- shaming them, in fact, as the mob rules- the more you conform the more virtuous you are and the more shameful they are. this is manufactured division.
meanwhile, the numbers surrounding this event are so far skewed it defies reason except if that reason is political. a kid, teenager, died in Tennessee last week in a motorcycle crash... the kids body tested positive for COVID-19- using a single test.. not allowing triplicate and on the 'word' of those administrating the test it was done properly- a swipe on a cadaver, mind you... and the the official cause of death is 'covid-19 related'...
this 'thing', however, IS real. it is a virus that has potential to kill- just like the tuberculosis outbreak last year (you likely didn't hear about) or H1N1 before it.... or the middle-east respiratory syndrome- or the 'common seasonal influenza' we face every year.
we 'flattened the curve'... or, we attempted to. what is the surprise all about that it is spreading? the intent was to slow it down so medical and response wouldn't be overwhelmed... it turns out that either those efforts worked, or, the 'thing' isn't as bad as we though it was going to be. or... both... why are people freaking out that there are a lot more cases? did anyone expect there wouldn't be? we're ALL going to encounter it at some point. there is no hiding. the sooner you become exposed the sooner you will establish antibodies to defend against it in future encounters... it's not like this is some sort of super-hero illness- it is an illness like most others, and speaking specifically about the virus itself it's actually a rather weak virus..
life is going to go on... whether you like it or not or whether you wear a mask or not or whether you leave your house or not... maybe we ought to stop treating folks who approach this differently as enemies and maybe the 'virtuous' aren't near as virtuous as they think they are just because some political movement tells them they are. maybe they're as big of jerks as those who totally refuse to take precautions... maybe they are of the same ilk, but just on different and opposing sides.
These cameras will probably look okay during the day, beginning of week but man, check them out Friday/Sat/Sunday, especially after dark, it gets ridiculous.
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Forget the mask, people aren't keeping their distance and obviously aren't washing their hands either! It's nuts.
"pay me now; pay me later; pay me you will."
no education . but hard knocks
and its hard to listen to folks that are so bright and accomplished = when you have my education = ever wonder why i dash = sign and dot dot dot = didnt go to english class
just learned what i learned and how to take care of my family and self
had my downfalls-heartaches-self induced problems and what ever came my way
hada great lady tell me once sympathy is between $hit n syphilis in the dictionary.
my apologies and will try and keep any medical opinions to my self
hope everyone has a great week
i will be on table rock wed thru monday if im needed
Experts say Miami is now the coronavirus epicenter just as Wuhan once was
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/07/13/watch-live-gimenez-and-medical-experts-give-latest-coronavirus-updates/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=snd&utm_content=wplg10
Remember the DC sniper attacks? Two guys went around DC randomly shooting people for three weeks. The entire region was gripped with fear, and nobody knew what to do. On the news, I saw a woman walking her daughter to school ... holding a frying pan next to the child's head for protection. Preposterous, right? But it probably made the child feel less anxious.
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"In light of the dramatic increase in Covid-19 cases over the past few weeks, the City of Key West has amended its directive pertaining to mask requirements.
Effective immediately, every person over the age of six, while physically located in the City of Key West and who is away from their residence, is required to wear a mask, regardless of whether social distancing is maintained."
i don't mean to sound as condescending or as smart *!% as that remark^ sounds. But, that seems to be precisely what some other people think.
did you ever drink from a creek or a water hose as a kid? Have you ever drank tap water in Mumbai? Mexico? London? .... was your body prepared for that if you have? Mine wasn't. I didn't think simply brushing my teeth exposed enough to impact.... Meanwhile, my Danish friends come over for vacation and are afraid of our tap water. For the same reason I'm afraid of theirs.
my kid is 7... it was later in life before she came along... i never missed a day of work for more than 30 years due to illness until she went to school.... since, i've encountered all kinds of weird germs- some of them frightful enough (to me, hardly slowed the kid) for me to protect my co-workers. I could say they're simply new- and maybe they are, to me... but maybe if i picked up strange objects not knowing who's they were or where they came from and either shoved them in my mouth or stuck my fingers in my mouth after handling those objects i'd be better prepared.... and whatever i caught wouldn't knock me slam out... sorta like either herd immunity, exposure, or an annual vaccine would. those things might not be 'novel' to the population or science, but they dang sure are to me.
IF YOU ARE COMPROMISED OR ARE ADJACENT TO SOMEONE WHO'S HEALTH IS COMPROMISED protecting those people is of the upmost importance, and at least until the point a vaccination or immunization arrives. Otherwise, YOU ARE GAMBLING. no matter how you 'think' or 'feel' about that- it is fact.... doesn't matter what you wear, how many times you wash your hands... none of that works... it DOES LESSEN beyond doubt, and, it's just plain good hygiene. at some point you ARE gong to come into contact with it.
You are right that the virus will not go away. C19 is one of the rock stars of viral infections. It's here forever. An important reason is that victims are highly contagious <before> they start to feel bad.
I believe society should exercise caution until we understand the virus. I believe in wearing a mask ... not to protect myself, but to protect others from me, because I probably won't know I'm contagious.
Yes, exposure is inevitable. Getting sick is not inevitable, if you can avoid it until there's a vaccine.
initially, when this first kicked off, i made a mental checklist of the items that would be addressed initially as within the response plan......... and then the media got involved. politicians started leveraging it. people seeking power sought platform while people in power sought to keep that from happening- and all the while, the population is at risk.
the crucial moment was lost.
we're paying for that now.
atop that, as Sir Winston Churchill said "Protect the truth with legions of lies" seems to be the ruling and directive. There is SO much BS out there nobody really knows what is actionable and what is to be dismissed.
A big point also is that current studies are showing that immunity to the virus after exposure is short lived. Just because you get exposed and recover or don't get sick is no guarantee you can't catch it again. And again. I will admit these studies are preliminary but there have been a few cases of people becoming infected a second or even third time. This is no ordinary virus for sure.
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however- you are never so impacted by a flavor of it as you are with your first taste. sure, you can get it over and over- but none will hit you like it before your body had a sense of what it is/was.
It has been proven in Arizona, that people have been tested up to 10 times, and ALL of those tests if positive, are being counted seperately. Gotta keep the fear alive!
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The thing is at least in FL, both of these numbers are going up.. which make sense with the record level amount of positives. Although the percent positive have not hit NY levels yet..
Maybe some will call me alarmist, but the writing on the wall that I see is my job is going to fall apart come Sept. 1st. We are in ground zero here in Fl for the virus and I'm thinking about how I could realistically live on the 270. I do not see the government supporting me at all.
Have run the numbers and have a spot I can "live aboard" for a while... will it be fun? Maybe... do I want to do it? No... but if the thing keeps on going at this rate down here there are going to be a LOT of tough choices to be made.
Elevated temperature happens when your body is fighting an infection, but you have to know how to look for it.
Most people think 98.6F is a "normal" temperature, and "fever" starts at 100.4F. That's junk science from 150 years ago. If I were to wake up in the morning at 98.6F, I would immediately self-quarantine and get tested for C19!
That's because I monitor my temperature daily as a requirement for my job. Turns out that my temperature when I wake up is typically 97.1F. A temperature of 98.6F, for me at that time of day, would be clear evidence of some sort of infection. Maybe C19, maybe something else, who knows. But I'd know to take action.
Everybody's temperature is different, and it also varies during the day ... low in the morning, higher in the afternoon.
Getting back to what @Lake_Bum said: One of my colleagues contracted C19. He felt a little tired, but nothing like flu symptoms. He only got tested because his wife felt sick. Guess what: when we looked at his temperature data, the elevated temperature was plain to see -- meaning he was contagious without knowing it.
37C = 98.6F
38C = 100.4F
Also, average body temperatures have dropped significantly since the 1850s when those guidelines were developed.
it's literally impossible to say the increase in known cases isn't directly related to expansion of testing... it's what is done with the numbers that is the tricky part and the part that ought not be manipulated to suite whomever's agenda- but that is exactly what is happening.
i can't say it enough- the more positive cases without hospitalization the better off we are- obviously not for the here and now, but in the long game. that is a little fact totally disregarded or muted. it 'does' matter. it matters hugely. it matters because a natural immunity or a natural resistance is obvious- people positive yet not demonstrating symptoms means there is hope the element responsible for that immunity or resistance can be isolated and used to defeat the virus. it means that the greater percentage of people who've contracted or contacted the virus and displayed no symptoms will most likely not require hospitalization in the future. it means those who contracted it and survived, to contract it again and suffer lessor symptoms have developed an antibody and that tells us 'novel' or not it can be defeated naturally- and if so the natural process can be synthesized for not only a cure but an immunization.
again- the first wave as it was- WAS 'flattened'- congrats- that is good news- we know more about it now and we also see that it isn't the boogie man- it has weakness.
now... in other news:
go check out the paper released by Rebel Cole of Florida Atlantic University on Saturday.. 333 labs reported 100% positive testing results for 3,528 test performed. another 31 labs reported 90-99% positive... the statistical likelihood of that is nill- nill.. 100%? 90-99%? Not 'inconclusive' but positive... every one of them in one set and 90-94% in the other... that is rubbish... plain- simple-rubbish.
but let's entertain they were accurate... even though that is science fiction and some sort of fantasy of even biological weapons developers, a 100% infection rate... that is SCARY- for those who take the bait to be scared. to others- it should resound as the end... 100% of the 3528 people tested were positive- yet an unremarkable (read: so small a number it isn't statistically relevant) number of those same people were entered into a care facility... that means the 'attack' has been endured and we are the survivors.... why isn't this news being spun in that manner? when is the last time the media made you feel good about something? enriched? satisfied? ..... why can't people who are reasonable, smart, rational and capable seeing through this?
So let's get back to it. Don't go to Florida because all you get is a sweaty butt and all the animals want to kill you 😂.
This is happening in every city, in every state.
If you have a stroke due to complications with diabetes, both are listed and documented for statistical purposes in medical records.
They aren't doing anything different with covid.