Happy Spring!

J3ff

Well the reason started this thread was because I knew Omi was going to get a whole ton of people, all of you included. Thankfully it ISN'T what Delta was, or even the very first Corona was... if it was, we'd be in a different world right now. 

I'm sorry a few people couldn't just be open minded enough to listen to others and realize all I was saying was I hope we all weather this storm and stay safe and healhty. Oh well. 

mvn

J3ff said:

Well the reason started this thread was because I knew Omi was going to get a whole ton of people, all of you included. Thankfully it ISN'T what Delta was, or even the very first Corona was... if it was, we'd be in a different world right now. 

I'm sorry a few people couldn't just be open minded enough to listen to others and realize all I was saying was I hope we all weather this storm and stay safe and healhty. Oh well. 

As I mentioned in a previous post, everything today is highly politicized.  This started a long time ago and is not unique to the US.  It is everywhere.  It seems that you can't have a friendly debate about anything without it turning into a **** storm.  We are witnessing the breakdown of society through division.  Maybe that's the plan.... Divide and conquer! 

Handymans342

mvn said:

J3ff said:

Well the reason started this thread was because I knew Omi was going to get a whole ton of people, all of you included. Thankfully it ISN'T what Delta was, or even the very first Corona was... if it was, we'd be in a different world right now. 

I'm sorry a few people couldn't just be open minded enough to listen to others and realize all I was saying was I hope we all weather this storm and stay safe and healhty. Oh well. 

As I mentioned in a previous post, everything today is highly politicized.  This started a long time ago and is not unique to the US.  It is everywhere.  It seems that you can't have a friendly debate about anything without it turning into a **** storm.  We are witnessing the breakdown of society through division.  Maybe that's the plan.... Divide and conquer! 

You are quoting George Soros 

mvn

Handymans342 said:

mvn said:

J3ff said:

Well the reason started this thread was because I knew Omi was going to get a whole ton of people, all of you included. Thankfully it ISN'T what Delta was, or even the very first Corona was... if it was, we'd be in a different world right now. 

I'm sorry a few people couldn't just be open minded enough to listen to others and realize all I was saying was I hope we all weather this storm and stay safe and healhty. Oh well. 

As I mentioned in a previous post, everything today is highly politicized.  This started a long time ago and is not unique to the US.  It is everywhere.  It seems that you can't have a friendly debate about anything without it turning into a **** storm.  We are witnessing the breakdown of society through division.  Maybe that's the plan.... Divide and conquer! 

You are quoting George Soros 

Really?  That's not good....... 

Willhound

A little before George's time....
"Divide and rule -- "Divida et Impera" -- said Julius Caesar, and since he divided Rome and "all Gaul" itself, no one ever contradicted him. However, earlier civilizations used the "divide and conquer" strategy long before Caesar; he may have been beaten to the punch, so to speak, by warring societies that were far more brutal, and far less all-encompassing, than the mighty Julius."

GMSLITHO

I don't consider this a political issue its a health issue there have been a lot of different views posted and a lot of good info for people to do there own research 

we have some sport related posts and financial one here also 

GMSLITHO

nothing to do with cover but interesting perspective 

MarkB

skennelly said:

Nobody has anybody's back anymore.  Not to mention considering people brother and sister.  The pandemic simply brought that to the forefront.  It's absolutely clear that a large part of the population could care less about their fellow neighbor.  Maybe get them sick...meh so what.

I do not think that is the case ... and that thought you wrote is gonna eat your thoughts up like cancer.

I can reassure you ... if your neighbor had a young child in need .... lots of people on the block would climb in and help.

This virus has divided people on principle ... it is the principle of having freedom, freedom to choose. I am vaccinated ... but I believe getting the vaccine should be a choice. Tyrant imposing laws is for dictatorships ... it is the easy way to enforce something. Democracy is harder ... you need to educate people, and gain their trust ... something the government is TERRIBLE at doing ... and so, yeah, you're gonna have people that don't trust anything the government says, because they perpetually lie ... what do you expect when someone/some group always lies???

But back to my point ... are you gonna walk away from a 20 year relationship because you are arguing whether a vaccine should be a choice or enforced by law??  ****, I've had much worse fights than that with my own wife ... and I'm still married to her. I'd say if that is worth walking away from a 20 year old long friendship ... than that is pretty lame.

So, let's not be lame, and rise above this ... just because someone has a different opinion ... doesn't make them your enemy.  

MarkB

GMSLITHO said:

nothing to do with cover but interesting perspective 

This is a perfect perspective ... we fortunately have it too good.
And now we acting like spoiled brats ... getting into hissy fits over Trump and Biden, and some virus/vaccine discussion.

I wonder, how many of us would act this way, if we having the SAME conversation directly across from each other at a camp fire, holding a scotch and a cigar. I'd say hardly any ... probably NONE.

Dream_Inn

MarkB said:

So, let's not be lame, and rise about this ... just because someone has a different opinion ... doesn't make them your enemy.  

I agree completely.  I boat with some people I call my boating family (for over a decade) & I've learned to keep politics out of any discussion.  They have complete opposite beliefs of me.  Now, knowing that, we have many different opinions and I respect what they have to say.

MarkB said:

I wonder, how many of us would act this way, if we having the SAME conversation directly across from each other at a camp fire, holding a scotch and a cigar. I'd say hardly any ... probably NONE.

I'd have a cold drink around a campfire with any & all of you!  Or even better, sitting on the back of the swim platform!

LaRea

@GMSLITHO it's funny that you posted that perspective.  It's almost exactly what I was thinking about this morning. 

rasbury

Very good reminder @GMSLITHO.

davidbrooks

@MarkB that has been my point of view all along.  IMO one of the big downfalls is social media has made everyone feel bulletproof. In a weird way less technologically advanced areas are more socially aware.  You tend to be a little more prudent about what you say when there is a real chance of getting punched.  I know i have different political opinions than some.  My goal is to try and find things i can talk about.  Search for the common ground first.  Stay away from the hot topics.  The issues that i have is when you are trying to be neutral and someone just keeps trying to get thier digs in. My brother in law is that way.  Just sending an innocent text with a picture can cause a rant.  It makes it very easy to just cut someone one off.  They get labled as that "angry old man".  

rasbury

I just don't recall seeing anything particularly offensive...or at the least untrue as far as political statements on this thread but maybe I missed something...

rasbury

MarkB said:

rasbury said:

No one really dies from Covid which was why I was careful to say complications from Covid. It is a virus. No one dies from a virus...just like Aids...you die of complications. Anyone can certainly go into an ICU and argue why they are there, if they can hear you over their ventilators anyway...

To me this is all semantics ... you get COVID and die from it, or from complications from it ... end result is still the same ... you're dead. 

I would guess the reason it is described this way is that people don't die from the same complications. If you get bit by a rattle snake and don't get the antivenom then your demise is pretty predictable on how the posion will shut down the body- with covid, it may be lungs, it may be heart or other issues- not the same all the time so complications from covid is used. Seems when ever I read something published by actual medical people, that is the term they use.

rasbury

So I went back through the whole thread...I don't get why anyone would have been so upset as to leave the forum- maybe stay away from the topic. But, that is the freedom we have!

Handymans342

rasbury said:

So I went back through the whole thread...I don't get why anyone would have been so upset as to leave the forum- maybe stay away from the topic. But, that is the freedom we have!

That's because you can't see Al's comments any longer

oscar1

I know this topic is about a virus and the true and lies around the issue, but unfortunately it become political the days someone took the opportunity to push an agenda over US. we all have different background, and opinions which I respect very much from everyone, But In my personal opinion, after spending 20 years of my life under a communist dictatorship of the Castro regime, I can smell communist from thousand miles away or when it being using a better word socialist which it is in my personal opinion the same. Plus after 20 years of serving in the USN, I still don't trust anything coming from any government, like Iraq (weapons of mass destruction) or Mexico (operation fast and furious), now CDC. I learn long time ago that nothing is free and worse when it is mandate.     

raybo3

All I have to say is that I got the friggin virus. Thank God I am vaxed because if I wasn't I would not want to feel the full impact. I feel like total crap. Feel very week and cant stop coughing. This would be no joke if I wasnt vaxed....... Just say'n 

Willhound

Hope you're well soon @raybo3.

Handymans342

raybo3 said:

All I have to say is that I got the friggin virus. Thank God I am vaxed because if I wasn't I would not want to feel the full impact. I feel like total crap. Feel very week and cant stop coughing. This would be no joke if I wasnt vaxed....... Just say'n 

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Handymans342

Hey @raybo3 Trump, how do you feel?? You got the Trump virus and the Trump vaccine. Your words, not mine. 

halifax212

@raybo3  Hang in there Ray, hope it doesn't last too long.  Pretty sure we are all going to get our taste of this sooner than later I'm afraid. 

GMSLITHO

Hope everyone and there loved ones make it through this tuff time 

Handymans342

Raybo knows I'm only joking as we spoke yesterday and today but it's just so ironic. 

Dream_Inn

Oh man, hope you get better soon Raybo!  I sure know a lot of people right now with it.  

aero3113

Feel better @raybo3

J3ff

Handymans342 said:

raybo3 said:

All I have to say is that I got the friggin virus. Thank God I am vaxed because if I wasn't I would not want to feel the full impact. I feel like total crap. Feel very week and cant stop coughing. This would be no joke if I wasnt vaxed....... Just say'n 

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wow dude, you're a bit over the top here. 

aero3113

So does anyone know the real reason why Al left? I would be shocked if it was because of this thread, seems kinda childish. Didn’t he do something like this last year (except having all his posts deleted)? Doesn’t he always leave the forum during the winter?

oscar1

Hope you're well soon @raybo3.