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    J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well the reason started this thread was because I knew Omi was going to get a whole ton of people, all of you included. Thankfully it ISN'T what Delta was, or even the very first Corona was... if it was, we'd be in a different world right now. 

    I'm sorry a few people couldn't just be open minded enough to listen to others and realize all I was saying was I hope we all weather this storm and stay safe and healhty. Oh well. 
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    mvnmvn Member, Moderator Posts: 744 mod
    J3ff said:
    Well the reason started this thread was because I knew Omi was going to get a whole ton of people, all of you included. Thankfully it ISN'T what Delta was, or even the very first Corona was... if it was, we'd be in a different world right now. 

    I'm sorry a few people couldn't just be open minded enough to listen to others and realize all I was saying was I hope we all weather this storm and stay safe and healhty. Oh well. 
    As I mentioned in a previous post, everything today is highly politicized.  This started a long time ago and is not unique to the US.  It is everywhere.  It seems that you can't have a friendly debate about anything without it turning into a **** storm.  We are witnessing the breakdown of society through division.  Maybe that's the plan.... Divide and conquer! 
    Good,  fast,  cheap.... pick two. 
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    Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    mvn said:
    J3ff said:
    Well the reason started this thread was because I knew Omi was going to get a whole ton of people, all of you included. Thankfully it ISN'T what Delta was, or even the very first Corona was... if it was, we'd be in a different world right now. 

    I'm sorry a few people couldn't just be open minded enough to listen to others and realize all I was saying was I hope we all weather this storm and stay safe and healhty. Oh well. 
    As I mentioned in a previous post, everything today is highly politicized.  This started a long time ago and is not unique to the US.  It is everywhere.  It seems that you can't have a friendly debate about anything without it turning into a **** storm.  We are witnessing the breakdown of society through division.  Maybe that's the plan.... Divide and conquer! 
    You are quoting George Soros 
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    mvnmvn Member, Moderator Posts: 744 mod
    Handymans342 said:
    mvn said:
    J3ff said:
    Well the reason started this thread was because I knew Omi was going to get a whole ton of people, all of you included. Thankfully it ISN'T what Delta was, or even the very first Corona was... if it was, we'd be in a different world right now. 

    I'm sorry a few people couldn't just be open minded enough to listen to others and realize all I was saying was I hope we all weather this storm and stay safe and healhty. Oh well. 
    As I mentioned in a previous post, everything today is highly politicized.  This started a long time ago and is not unique to the US.  It is everywhere.  It seems that you can't have a friendly debate about anything without it turning into a **** storm.  We are witnessing the breakdown of society through division.  Maybe that's the plan.... Divide and conquer! 
    You are quoting George Soros 
    Really?  That's not good....... 
    Good,  fast,  cheap.... pick two. 
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    WillhoundWillhound Member Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A little before George's time....
    "Divide and rule -- "Divida et Impera" -- said Julius Caesar, and since he divided Rome and "all Gaul" itself, no one ever contradicted him. However, earlier civilizations used the "divide and conquer" strategy long before Caesar; he may have been beaten to the punch, so to speak, by warring societies that were far more brutal, and far less all-encompassing, than the mighty Julius."
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    GMSLITHOGMSLITHO Member Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't consider this a political issue its a health issue there have been a lot of different views posted and a lot of good info for people to do there own research 

    we have some sport related posts and financial one here also 
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    MarkBMarkB Member Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2022
    skennelly said:
    Nobody has anybody's back anymore.  Not to mention considering people brother and sister.  The pandemic simply brought that to the forefront.  It's absolutely clear that a large part of the population could care less about their fellow neighbor.  Maybe get them sick...meh so what.
    I do not think that is the case ... and that thought you wrote is gonna eat your thoughts up like cancer.

    I can reassure you ... if your neighbor had a young child in need .... lots of people on the block would climb in and help.

    This virus has divided people on principle ... it is the principle of having freedom, freedom to choose. I am vaccinated ... but I believe getting the vaccine should be a choice. Tyrant imposing laws is for dictatorships ... it is the easy way to enforce something. Democracy is harder ... you need to educate people, and gain their trust ... something the government is TERRIBLE at doing ... and so, yeah, you're gonna have people that don't trust anything the government says, because they perpetually lie ... what do you expect when someone/some group always lies???

    But back to my point ... are you gonna walk away from a 20 year relationship because you are arguing whether a vaccine should be a choice or enforced by law??  ****, I've had much worse fights than that with my own wife ... and I'm still married to her. I'd say if that is worth walking away from a 20 year old long friendship ... than that is pretty lame.

    So, let's not be lame, and rise above this ... just because someone has a different opinion ... doesn't make them your enemy.  
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    MarkBMarkB Member Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
    GMSLITHO said:


    nothing to do with cover but interesting perspective 
    This is a perfect perspective ... we fortunately have it too good.
    And now we acting like spoiled brats ... getting into hissy fits over Trump and Biden, and some virus/vaccine discussion.

    I wonder, how many of us would act this way, if we having the SAME conversation directly across from each other at a camp fire, holding a scotch and a cigar. I'd say hardly any ... probably NONE.

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    LaReaLaRea Member, Moderator Posts: 7,567 mod
    @GMSLITHO it's funny that you posted that perspective.  It's almost exactly what I was thinking about this morning. 
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    rasburyrasbury Member Posts: 8,254 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very good reminder @GMSLITHO.
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    davidbrooksdavidbrooks Member Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭✭
    @MarkB that has been my point of view all along.  IMO one of the big downfalls is social media has made everyone feel bulletproof. In a weird way less technologically advanced areas are more socially aware.  You tend to be a little more prudent about what you say when there is a real chance of getting punched.  I know i have different political opinions than some.  My goal is to try and find things i can talk about.  Search for the common ground first.  Stay away from the hot topics.  The issues that i have is when you are trying to be neutral and someone just keeps trying to get thier digs in. My brother in law is that way.  Just sending an innocent text with a picture can cause a rant.  It makes it very easy to just cut someone one off.  They get labled as that "angry old man".  
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    rasburyrasbury Member Posts: 8,254 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just don't recall seeing anything particularly offensive...or at the least untrue as far as political statements on this thread but maybe I missed something...
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    rasburyrasbury Member Posts: 8,254 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MarkB said:
    rasbury said:
    No one really dies from Covid which was why I was careful to say complications from Covid. It is a virus. No one dies from a virus...just like Aids...you die of complications. Anyone can certainly go into an ICU and argue why they are there, if they can hear you over their ventilators anyway...
    To me this is all semantics ... you get COVID and die from it, or from complications from it ... end result is still the same ... you're dead. 
    I would guess the reason it is described this way is that people don't die from the same complications. If you get bit by a rattle snake and don't get the antivenom then your demise is pretty predictable on how the posion will shut down the body- with covid, it may be lungs, it may be heart or other issues- not the same all the time so complications from covid is used. Seems when ever I read something published by actual medical people, that is the term they use.
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    rasburyrasbury Member Posts: 8,254 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So I went back through the whole thread...I don't get why anyone would have been so upset as to leave the forum- maybe stay away from the topic. But, that is the freedom we have!
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    Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rasbury said:
    So I went back through the whole thread...I don't get why anyone would have been so upset as to leave the forum- maybe stay away from the topic. But, that is the freedom we have!
    That's because you can't see Al's comments any longer
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    oscar1oscar1 Member Posts: 745 ✭✭✭
    I know this topic is about a virus and the true and lies around the issue, but unfortunately it become political the days someone took the opportunity to push an agenda over US. we all have different background, and opinions which I respect very much from everyone, But In my personal opinion, after spending 20 years of my life under a communist dictatorship of the Castro regime, I can smell communist from thousand miles away or when it being using a better word socialist which it is in my personal opinion the same. Plus after 20 years of serving in the USN, I still don't trust anything coming from any government, like Iraq (weapons of mass destruction) or Mexico (operation fast and furious), now CDC. I learn long time ago that nothing is free and worse when it is mandate.     
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    raybo3raybo3 Administrator Posts: 5,460 admin
    All I have to say is that I got the friggin virus. Thank God I am vaxed because if I wasn't I would not want to feel the full impact. I feel like total crap. Feel very week and cant stop coughing. This would be no joke if I wasnt vaxed....... Just say'n 
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    WillhoundWillhound Member Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hope you're well soon @raybo3.
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    Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    raybo3 said:
    All I have to say is that I got the friggin virus. Thank God I am vaxed because if I wasn't I would not want to feel the full impact. I feel like total crap. Feel very week and cant stop coughing. This would be no joke if I wasnt vaxed....... Just say'n 
    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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    Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey @raybo3 Trump, how do you feel?? You got the Trump virus and the Trump vaccine. Your words, not mine. 
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    halifax212halifax212 Member Posts: 553 ✭✭✭
    @raybo3  Hang in there Ray, hope it doesn't last too long.  Pretty sure we are all going to get our taste of this sooner than later I'm afraid. 
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    GMSLITHOGMSLITHO Member Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭✭
    Hope everyone and there loved ones make it through this tuff time 
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    Handymans342Handymans342 Member Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Raybo knows I'm only joking as we spoke yesterday and today but it's just so ironic. 
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    Dream_InnDream_Inn Member, Moderator Posts: 7,563 mod
    Oh man, hope you get better soon Raybo!  I sure know a lot of people right now with it.  

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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Feel better @raybo3
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    J3ffJ3ff Member Posts: 4,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Handymans342 said:
    raybo3 said:
    All I have to say is that I got the friggin virus. Thank God I am vaxed because if I wasn't I would not want to feel the full impact. I feel like total crap. Feel very week and cant stop coughing. This would be no joke if I wasnt vaxed....... Just say'n 
    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Wow dude, you're a bit over the top here. 
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    aero3113aero3113 Member Posts: 8,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So does anyone know the real reason why Al left? I would be shocked if it was because of this thread, seems kinda childish. Didn’t he do something like this last year (except having all his posts deleted)? Doesn’t he always leave the forum during the winter?
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    oscar1oscar1 Member Posts: 745 ✭✭✭
    Hope you're well soon @raybo3.
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